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*Fast recharging spike |
*Fast recharging spike |
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*Has a variety of IASs to choose from, including Flail, Flurry, and Frenzy. |
*Has a variety of IASs to choose from, including Flail, Flurry, and Frenzy. |
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+ | *Pressures in between with Palm Strike~>Death Blossom |
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*Can mini-spike between spikes, and can still pressure with PS~>DB. |
*Can mini-spike between spikes, and can still pressure with PS~>DB. |
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*PS isnt blockable, nor is it an ench that can be removed. |
*PS isnt blockable, nor is it an ench that can be removed. |
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:::unnecessary edrama is unnecessary --'''''[[User:Ojamo|<font color="Purple">Ojamo</font>]]''''' '''[[User Talk:Ojamo|<font color="Green">(>.<(</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ojamo|<font color="green">O=(- -Q)</font>]]''' 23:19, 16 January 2009 (EST) |
:::unnecessary edrama is unnecessary --'''''[[User:Ojamo|<font color="Purple">Ojamo</font>]]''''' '''[[User Talk:Ojamo|<font color="Green">(>.<(</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ojamo|<font color="green">O=(- -Q)</font>]]''' 23:19, 16 January 2009 (EST) |
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::::yea, we may see GG used again if Palm Strike gets a recharge nerf or something...or if they take out the crippled part.--[[User:Ikimono|<font color="blue">'''Ikimono'''</font><small><font color ="Teal">Needs more Paragon</font></small>]][[Image:Monk-Paragon-icon.png]] 01:20, 17 January 2009 (EST) |
::::yea, we may see GG used again if Palm Strike gets a recharge nerf or something...or if they take out the crippled part.--[[User:Ikimono|<font color="blue">'''Ikimono'''</font><small><font color ="Teal">Needs more Paragon</font></small>]][[Image:Monk-Paragon-icon.png]] 01:20, 17 January 2009 (EST) |
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+ | bump {{User:I Am Jebus/Sig6}} 19:11, 30 January 2009 (EST) |
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+ | :Life Sheath fucks Palm Strike sins over, shut the fuck up imo. - [[Image:Miserysig.PNG|117px]] [[User talk:Misery|<small><font color="black">(talk)</font></small>]] 19:14, 30 January 2009 (EST) |
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+ | ::I still don't see Life Sheath too often tbh...--[[User:Ikimono|<font color="blue">'''Ikimono'''</font><small><font color ="Teal">Needs more Paragon</font></small>]][[Image:Monk-Paragon-icon.png]] 21:05, 30 January 2009 (EST) |
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+ | :::Life sheath fucks over PS when used by a good monk. Its only really seen in RA and low-level PvP, where high-end PvP cant spare the elite. And ench removal counters GG, ench removal is way more common. :/ {{User:I Am Jebus/Sig6}} 22:18, 30 January 2009 (EST) |
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+ | ::::i find GG assassins slightly more annoying as a ranger as most PS assassins tend to have pressed 1 (or whatever location their PS is on their skill bar) while they run towards me. this allows me to just wait and shoot out everyone's favorite dshot and render the guy pretty much useless for a few seconds. maybe thats just because i dont see too many GG assassins though... [[user:LongCat|<font color=#669900>ƃuoן sı </font>]][[Image:Escape.jpg|19px]] [[user talk:LongCat|<font color=#996 600>'''ʇɐɔƃuoן'''</font>]] 19:29, 2 February 2009 (EST) |
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+ | :::That's because you play at shitter level Ikimono. Jebus, Life Sheath is getting run a lot in HA and GvG. - [[Image:Miserysig.PNG|117px]] [[User talk:Misery|<small><font color="black">(talk)</font></small>]] 19:30, 2 February 2009 (EST) |
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+ | ::::ROLL WITH RANDOMWAY <b>[[User:InfestedHydralisk|<font color="#000000">'''Infested'''</font>]][[User talk:InfestedHydralisk|<font color="#CD0000">'''Hydralisk'''</font>]]</b> 19:33, 2 February 2009 (EST) |
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+ | :::::My randomway is pro. - [[Image:Miserysig.PNG|117px]] [[User talk:Misery|<small><font color="black">(talk)</font></small>]] 19:34, 2 February 2009 (EST) |
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+ | ::::::My idea of pro is randomway D: [[User:Karate Jesus|Karate Jesus]] ([[User talk:Karate Jesus|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Karate Jesus|contribs]]) ([[Special:Specialpages|→]]<font face="Arial" color="gray">19:37, 2 February 2009 -</font> ) |
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+ | :::::::I can't pull some lame " I posted the build, and I don't like nao so we can archive it oke yesh? " type of thing for some reason can I? [[User:Hikari|Hikari]] 01:58, 12 February 2009 (EST) |
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+ | ::::::::No. ~~ {{User:Frvwfr2/SigRedirect2}} 06:37, 12 February 2009 (EST) |
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+ | :::::::::<nowiki>{{delete|Author Request}} ;o </nowiki> [[Image:Frostrage.jpg|19px]][[User:Frosty|<font color="Blue">'''Frosty'''</font>]] [[User talk:Frosty|<font color="Blue"><small>po!</small></font>]] 06:39, 12 February 2009 (EST) |
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+ | ==Recent lead buffs== |
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+ | {{mini skill bar|Golden Lotus Strike|Golden Fang Strike|Trampling Ox|Falling Spider|Blades of Steel|Grenth's Grasp|whirling charge|optional|}} |
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+ | Spike every 8 seconds with big pewpew. [[Image:Zyke-Sig.png]] 05:46, 29 August 2009 (UTC) |
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+ | == unarchive == |
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+ | This became usable after the debuff.--[[Special:Contributions/72.189.84.187|72.189.84.187]] 07:20, 29 August 2009 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 19:29, 1 September 2010
Archive 1
Archive
If i did something wrong, change it. JebusMcPachirisu 20:21, 15 January 2009 (EST)
GG vs Palm Strike
Bringing back a much-hated conversation.
GG:
- Cripple on demand with the beginning of your chain, keep them crippled throughout the chain.
- Can mini-spike between spikes with DW
- Has an IAS/IMS with little disadvantage
PS:
- Cripple every 4 seconds with some damage thrown in
- Cheap, rechargable, spammable elite with crip
- Fast recharging spike
- Has a variety of IASs to choose from, including Flail, Flurry, and Frenzy.
- Pressures in between with Palm Strike~>Death Blossom
- Can mini-spike between spikes, and can still pressure with PS~>DB.
- PS isnt blockable, nor is it an ench that can be removed.
Counters:
GG:
- Ench removal, all too common everywhere.
- Blocks
- Standard anti-sin, like blind, etc
PS:
- Blocks, to a limit. Can still spam with PS/DB and hope damage goes through.
- Blind also limits the PS sin, but it can keep an enemy crippled by spamming PS, which, as a touch skill, is unaffected by blind iirc.
- Signet of Humility (you forgot one)--IkimonoNeeds more Paragon 01:16, 17 January 2009 (EST)
The only advantage of Grenth's Grasp over this is that it can keep the opponent crippled throughout the chain, which is also possible on the PS spiker if you use PS/DB at the end of the spike.
Compare this to the previously mentioned Eviscerate vs Primal Axe/ WE Axe; the latter pump huge damage, evis pumps damage and utility. Evis does certain things better to be able to warrant its own build page; Grenth's Grasp does not. JebusMcPachirisu 22:39, 15 January 2009 (EST)
- Well you've convinced at least me this should be archived. But I still have a feeling it'll see use again after Palm Strike's recharge is eventually nerfed. - 420 11:47, 16 January 2009 (EST)
- please dont do this again :< --Ojamo (>.<(O=(- -Q) 19:29, 16 January 2009 (EST)
- give rl rsn plz JebusMcPachirisu 23:06, 16 January 2009 (EST)
- unnecessary edrama is unnecessary --Ojamo (>.<(O=(- -Q) 23:19, 16 January 2009 (EST)
- yea, we may see GG used again if Palm Strike gets a recharge nerf or something...or if they take out the crippled part.--IkimonoNeeds more Paragon 01:20, 17 January 2009 (EST)
- unnecessary edrama is unnecessary --Ojamo (>.<(O=(- -Q) 23:19, 16 January 2009 (EST)
bump JebusMcPachirisu 19:11, 30 January 2009 (EST)
- Life Sheath fucks Palm Strike sins over, shut the fuck up imo. - (talk) 19:14, 30 January 2009 (EST)
- I still don't see Life Sheath too often tbh...--IkimonoNeeds more Paragon 21:05, 30 January 2009 (EST)
- Life sheath fucks over PS when used by a good monk. Its only really seen in RA and low-level PvP, where high-end PvP cant spare the elite. And ench removal counters GG, ench removal is way more common. :/ JebusMcPachirisu 22:18, 30 January 2009 (EST)
- I still don't see Life Sheath too often tbh...--IkimonoNeeds more Paragon 21:05, 30 January 2009 (EST)
- i find GG assassins slightly more annoying as a ranger as most PS assassins tend to have pressed 1 (or whatever location their PS is on their skill bar) while they run towards me. this allows me to just wait and shoot out everyone's favorite dshot and render the guy pretty much useless for a few seconds. maybe thats just because i dont see too many GG assassins though... ƃuoן sı ʇɐɔƃuoן 19:29, 2 February 2009 (EST)
- That's because you play at shitter level Ikimono. Jebus, Life Sheath is getting run a lot in HA and GvG. - (talk) 19:30, 2 February 2009 (EST)
Recent lead buffs
whirling charge |
Spike every 8 seconds with big pewpew. 05:46, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
unarchive
This became usable after the debuff.--72.189.84.187 07:20, 29 August 2009 (UTC)