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Ok another random idea i just had.--Tyris 13:25, 14 August 2008 (EDT)

Harrier's is crap. Its too expensive, and not enough uptime, along with too many attribute points in it. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   13:26, 14 August 2008 (EDT)

Actually its up for 25 seconds if u cast it with a caster set and the RC is 25 seconds so there is 0 down time. with attackers Insight in the bar i dont need so many points in crit strikes hence i can have the spare attribute points in Wind prayers.--Tyris 13:34, 14 August 2008 (EDT)

i like it, alot of utility, pressure spiking, etc, only lacks a shadow step, otherwise gogogo.Snipey lizard 13:52, 14 August 2008 (EDT)

You don't quite make the breakpoint for Blades of Steel, but this doesn't look too bad, tbh. Critical Strikes, although low, don't actually need to be any higher because in total, this would cost you about 30 energy, which isn't a lot, tbh. Looks pretty good. =P ــмıкεнaшк 14:10, 14 August 2008 (EDT)
The idea of having a caster dazed and crippled while your frontline trains on it is appealing, however, 12 points in wind prayers kinda gimps your assassins damageHikari 22:24, 16 August 2008 (EDT)
Heh, 12 in Wind Mastery means Attacker's Insight affects 3 attack skills, which makes for a very cheap chain, tbh. ــмıкεнaшк 22:57, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

Assassins have Black Mantis Thrust and Leaping Mantis Sting. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 23:34, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

Black Mantis Requires a Hex and leaping Mantis Cant be spammed and applied from range with a spear. HG allows you too Spam Cripple from distance with a spear.--Tyris 07:58, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

It also requires full spec to be near maintanable and means you loose damage from Dagger mastery and you loose damage and energy management from Crit Strikes. --FrostyFrosty Diglett 07:59, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Well I suppose if people hate HG that bad the Assasins Remedy is an Option. With only 8 or so wind prayers People Kiting You becomes an issue then though.--Tyris 08:02, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Hey, doesn't the elite have to follow a lead attack? 67.53.132.50 10:54, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

Not after the update. And about the Daggers being too low, you're only losing like 7 dmg off your chain from skills and yes I know crits, normal damage etc. but I don't think it's that big a deal for longer whirling/graspComfortOsprey 11:10, 18 August 2008 (EDT)


harriers --> assassin's remedy, wind prayers --> 6 or 8 imo.Saintsigpic2 Saint 17:12, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

Perfectly decent build IMO. I'd run it.--72.189.85.47 20:05, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

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