Archive talk:A/E AoD Shock Sin/Archive

Can we please unarchive this? Hardly as though it's no longer viable. SB ran it plenty in a pretty similar meta a few months ago. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 06:58, 30 July 2007 (CEST)

I agree, although with some changes, this one is just made to precisely kill NPC's in GvG by interrupting all attempts to fight back. We can change this around to meet today's PvP world (and make the main a variant?) Wyvern 07:22, 30 July 2007 (CEST)

I clung to my Falling Shocker for dear life, but even I run SP/Recall these days. - Krowman {{sysop}} 07:23, 30 July 2007 (CEST)

edit first ask later imo — RAWR! Skakid9090 07:24, 30 July 2007 (CEST)

I'm going to be working on potential changes to this in my userspace at User:Edru viransu/Builds/Build:A/E_Falling_Shocker (because I don't want to mess up this build with any changes, yet). --Edru viransu//QQ about me 07:35, 30 July 2007 (CEST)

Same here, I'm too much of a wuss to touch it for fear of the wrath of classic lovers, better to reach a consensus for the majority here's a partial attempt:

<pvxbig> [build prof=A/E criti=8+1 shadow=6+1 deadly=10+2+1 dagger=11+1][Aura of Displacement][Shock][Falling Spider] [Twisting Fangs][Signet of Toxic Shock][Feigned Neutrality][Optional][Optional][/build] </pvxbig> Things to consider:

• Death blossom + Impale for more damage
• IMS like Siphon Speed or dash
• Some other dual
• And anything else you guys can think up of.

Wyvern 07:44, 30 July 2007 (CEST)

Some of the GW:EN skills will make the Falling Shocker as viable as the SP/Recall sin. This could prolly wait a month to be revived from the archives. - Krowman {{sysop}} 19:01, 30 July 2007 (CEST)

Doh how could I forget? Then again... I forgot the name of that damage per condition signet that's going to make this awesome. So I shouldn't be surprised that I forgot... what? Wyvern 04:00, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

Edru has a link to all of them on his talk page. I think you want this one. - Krowman {{sysop}} 04:06, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

i think this is worst build for assa, because of Exhaustion, i know it makes lots of damage, but still you need to regen, because whole build depends on shock. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.102.80.125 (contribs) 14:37, 31 July 2007.

Because you don't have any offhand attacks in this build besides Falling Spider, right? Oh, wait. To be serious, though, exhaustion's no problem if you're careful. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 16:48, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

The exact build that SB ran a lot was the first version of this build we had on the GuildWiki:

The combo's quite powerful. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:25, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

SB ran Feigned, usually, when I obsed them. I think I remember them sometimes sticking Death's Charge or something in there somewhere, as well. Most of the time, they ran the bar you said, except with feigned instead of SR. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 17:30, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

That was was the first version of the build we had on GWiki. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:52, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

"The exact build that SB ran a lot was the first version of this build we had on the GuildWiki" :P --Edru viransu//QQ about me 17:53, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

Shush, now you know what I meant by that anyways. =D Not sure if it makes that much of a difference though. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 04:09, 1 August 2007 (CEST)

Feigned + Dark Escape = <100 damage cata. good for a laugh, also, dark escape + feigned = freedom to run way past the enemy team to gank. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 04:24, 1 August 2007 (CEST)

Aura of Displacement is the crappiest elite skill ever!

Seriously...you can get the same results with shadow walk and dash and you can use a different useful elite skill.

Just my thoughts...

Right, because 30 seconds is enough to run all the way across the map to gank NPCs and never might end before you want to, and AoD prevents you from using a speed boost and prevents you from using enchantments, and can't be used for GPS. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 23:09, 6 August 2007 (CEST)

To explain my point in fewer words: you are wrong. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 23:14, 6 August 2007 (CEST)

i second that ... i wish it had a slight faster recharge something along of 10-15 seconds :/ otherwise .. its preety good elite Iwan13_talk 17:30, 24 August 2007 (CEST)

Is Shock still needed?

With GPS unnerfed, perhaps shock could be dropped for some utility skill, maybe? --Edru viransu//QQ about me 02:43, 11 August 2007 (CEST)

Shock is still good for the back up KD, but it's not really necessary. --Hikari 04:48, 13 August 2007 (CEST)

Storm Bearers

Runs a ganker with this build... if you get a chance, watch it, he is amazing. ~~ frvwfr2 (T/C/RFA) 15:39, 14 August 2007 (CEST)

Thus Ka is god, imo. It's funny how much positioning advantage he can gain SB just by AoDing an enemy monk, hitting dark escape, and pressing 'r'. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 00:36, 15 August 2007 (CEST)

August 29th re-write

I re-wrote the article, basically - took out a lot of wordiness and a bit of bad advice. The bar is now ordered the way its supposed to be - shock doesn't start off the combo. Shock is now (and should have always been, on PvX) a utility skill in the bar, only used as a key interrupt/snare or in place of HotO if needed. Also added TA/AB tags, as this does mildly well in both (teleport isn't quite as useful in TA, but the bar's power and utility is where its at). -Auron 15:17, 29 August 2007 (CEST)

why death's charge? — Skakid9090 23:20, 29 August 2007 (CEST)

Because without it, you can't shadowstep without moving your anchor position. --Edru viransu//QQ about me/sysop 23:46, 29 August 2007 (CEST)

Added the bit about how2deathscharge in the build (evidently I can't just assume people know how to use skills :P ). -Auron 09:39, 30 August 2007 (CEST)

i think thats a good thing cuz many sins still think thay they have super tank abilities Iwan13_talk 10:42, 30 August 2007 (CEST)

Needs moar self heal variants. --Hikari 00:01, 31 August 2007 (CEST)

You don't need a self-heal when you can shadow step to safety, and kill the NPC's before they can stand. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:21, 31 August 2007 (CEST)

There's nothing more embarrassing than bleeding to death though. Like I stated in my rating, I've seen people go 12/11/6 before runes, and used DC as a quasi-self heal. - Krowman {{sysop}} 00:24, 31 August 2007 (CEST)

Use mending, then you won't bleed. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:25, 31 August 2007 (CEST)

But if you're bleeding, then Mending's regenerative powers are severely diminIshed! - Krowman {{sysop}} 00:28, 31 August 2007 (CEST)