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Please use 4 tildes (~~~~) to sign your comments. Thanks. —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲShield of Deflection 19:32, 4 September 2007 (CEST)

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Ashes to ashes... —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ 02:10, 2 November 2007 (CET)

I learn something everyday here, sorry if i f**ked it up Ashes 10:18, 2 November 2007 (CET)

Hey, don't worry about it. Learning experience for me too. Everyone starts somewhere, don't fret about it. —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ 12:07, 2 November 2007 (CET)

Howya doin. Shogunshen Sig Shen(contribs) 03:30, 2 December 2007 (CET)

Fine thanks ;D - but im not sure who u are, or where i know u from, unless ur from NPC :DDAshes 19:27, 3 December 2007 (CET)

How do you go about handling mana with this build, granted i had to add a regen skill with what i was going after but i kept running out.70.100.94.64 11:51, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Replace Intensity with GolE, and use this to reduce sliver and Ebon to 0. I actually think the main bar should be like this, and DC changed to an optional, since you don't need a Shadowstep most of the time. — Poki#3 My Talk Page :o 12:26, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
worked much better thanx, added vipers defense on end of skill bar for some degen while waiting on sliver armor kinda handy.70.100.94.64 17:24, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

When making many miniscule edits to a page...

Use the "show preview" button. Thanks. -Auron 06:25, 29 January 2008 (EST)

Sure didnt know any1 were looking :D Ashes 06:27, 29 January 2008 (EST)

It all showes up on the Recent changes, so it may clog it up (if you get my drift), btw when the update comes I can see this being viable, but I am not sure if the glyph and deadly paradox stack, if they do,then this is great Frost eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! 07:03, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
Yup 28 second recharge on SF, when the update comes out, this is going to be used everywhere. Frost eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! 07:14, 22 May 2008 (EDT)


Build Discussion

Moved this to a build page, this looks really promising after the update Frost eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! 07:58, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Will be imba, I'm getting Deadly Paradox on my ele. Mesmers, Elementalists, Assassins and Rangers can now have perma sf all the time ;d — Abedeus User Abedeus Sig 08:12, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

It looks like this build will have some energy issues as well as damage output issues. Sliver armor will only be up about half the time.

Please end your comments with ~~~~ to sign them. And, please regard Aura of Superiority. Some of its effects are energy gain and all skills recharge; and with (ideally) a mass of enemies surrounding you, things die fast. - GenericWikier1 Generic Wiki-er 23:10, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

Highest stack at...

The highest Reduce Rechagre Time stack is at 50%. So 50% of 60 = 30. 20+(20 x 0.2) = 24 seconds. 30 - 24 = 6 seconds of Shadow Form downtime. If you were relying on Air of Superiority to recharge Shadow Form, it's too risky. Sorry but nice try Lyssan55 17:42, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Well worked out, now read the build description, to be used after the may 22nd update in which Shadow Form recieves a buff or whatever it says in the front page, lrn2read before ripping builds up please... Frost eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! 17:45, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
Woops, sry didn't read the new updates or anything. My apologies this works fine. Lyssan55 09:11, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

May 22nd

This May 22nd? How do you know what the update is before they do it? Destruction Sig1Lord of Destruction 08:43, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

look at the main page of PvX and check out the dev updates in the news. - PANIC! Panic sig4 sexiness! 08:45, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
dammit panic, i was about to post that. well here it is anyway http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Developer_Updates/20080521. btw with 16 shadow arts and 20% enchantment mod shadow form comes on 38 secs duration, just too small for DP alone. Larsie538 08:47, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
my mad. Sweet! The Quick shot Spammer is better again! Destruction Sig1Lord of Destruction 08:50, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
+ Glyph of Swiftness = 28 second recharge (well atleast under 30 seconds) which makes it more than viable) Frost eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! 08:51, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
I make it 38 seconds long at 16 shadow (each rank is approx +2 seconds). with the 20% mod that should make it about 46 seconds duration. - PANIC! Panic sig4 sexiness! 08:51, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
You forget official wiki determines ranks from 0...15 and not 0...12 Larsie538 09:00, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
Dev notes are from 0...12 I believe. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   09:01, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

0..15 as far as i knowAshes 09:04, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

I thought 0...12, too. Otherwise it's a messy 1.56 second increase at each level. Oh well we'll find out later tonight. It's still pretty broken tbh. - PANIC! Panic sig4 sexiness! 09:07, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
I'm pretty sure its 0...15. anyway you could switch out glyph of swiftness for an Essence of celerity i think. Larsie538 09:11, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
0...15 cause they screw headgear. thats how i remember--Relyk Purifying Veil SigRELYK (Talk | Edits) 23:34, 25 May 2008 (EDT)

Buff

It was 0 -> 15, but still this build can maintain SF with 13 shadow arts aslong as a 20% enchantmod is brought. Frost eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! 18:20, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

The update is here

Discuss Ashes 18:21, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Shadow Form + ench mod + random skills now wins PvE. Nothing to discuss. - GenericWikier1 Generic Wiki-er 19:01, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
It's gonna get nerfed L.O.L ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹPanic srsbsns 19:02, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
...It's PvE. I repeat. PvE.--GatessMoebius Strike IconThe Gates Assassin 19:12, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
Being able to vanquish everything that hasn't got weird enchantment removal (Rending Touch, Chilblains, etc.) is just fucking gay and imba. ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹPanic srsbsns 19:12, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
you could do it before. it's just easier now.--Reason.decrystallized 21:15, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

holy ----

Is there anything this can't farm? (don't answer that) so, what is the best farmable thing this can do? like, the best farm spot i guess... Uberxman1028 SigUberxman1028 23:07, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

I'm having trouble maintaining energy, when there arent enough enemies around or when they run (HM), but maybe thats just me being used to A/Me with spirit of failure lol (just realised the grasps of insanity use fear me. QQ Larsie538 02:09, 23 May 2008 (EDT)
Go /N and take Vocal Minority and dagger attacks. --71.229.204.25 02:21, 23 May 2008 (EDT)
Need glyph of swiftness to keep SF on, but besides that not a bad suggestion. Larsie538 02:31, 23 May 2008 (EDT)
Orite. --71.229.204.25 02:44, 23 May 2008 (EDT)
You don't need to go /N...thats not even possible. To avoid getting fear me'ed too much just switch to any martial weapon and they won't use it on you, or at least not as much.--GatessMoebius Strike IconThe Gates Assassin 06:34, 23 May 2008 (EDT)
Just use a Totem Axe or an equivalent and they won't use Fear Me. ZefirsigGod Zefir 17:12, 23 May 2008 (EDT)
I farm tombs with permashadow (aecho, no gwen), weilding a totem axe, but they still use "Fear Me!". - GenericWikier1 Generic Wiki-er 18:29, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

Nolani Academy Farm?

...In hard mode. About 20 enemies, none of which can hurt you. There's no way there could be any more win. Mazza558 08:00, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

Charr have a tendency to run away when Sliver Armor targets them, which makes killing a real pain in the ass, plus a couple will usually just run past and kill Ruric, causing you to lose the mission. --71.229 08:03, 23 May 2008 (EDT)
I tried it, Ignite Arrows still hit. Larsie538 11:10, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

Try use Death's charge as a heal then, also Air of Sup give some heal (if ur lucky xD) Ashes 12:10, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

If yu can't get your hands on a caster weapon/offhand set, would Daggers of Xuekao work okay?YellowPikminKaze 19:43, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

pretty much anything with a enchant mod will work Antiarchangel Antiarchangel No U Sig TROLL 00:08, 24 May 2008 (EDT)
I keep getting owned by burning arrow from the charr rangers. I kill the boss, but die anyway.


Best place to farm

I tweaked it a bit, Because i cant use AoS...And it is beyond Awesome, But i cant find a great place to farm, Can any1 give me tips?

UW, FoW and Tombs can all be easily farmed. Also The Monolith Temple and Raptors are great ways to get lots of golds. --GatessMoebius Strike IconThe Gates Assassin 20:12, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

Monolith Temple doesnt work, they use Sig of Humility making it impossible to recast SF

Glyph of Lesser energy in for Deaths Charge =

^--GatessMoebius Strike IconThe Gates Assassin 20:19, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

Added to variants Ashes 11:29, 25 May 2008 (EDT)

How much downtime does sliver armor have? With glyph of swiftness and deadly paradox, that gets reduced too,right?killAruna User:KillaruanLeet!

DP doesn't cut down the recharge of Sliver. But AoS does (recharge all skills effect), so it's effectively maintainable - GenericWikier1 Generic Wiki-er 12:36, 25 May 2008 (EDT)
Sliver armor lasts about 15 seconds, 25% of 30 is about 6 or 7 (too lazy) so there is about 8 seconds down time. Without it there is a 15 second down time, however if you don't have the energy to cast it in the first place, then its up more with glyph of lesser energy. Also HCR makes it fully maintainable about 40% of the time (Or 20% not sure, kinda lazy right now)--GatessMoebius Strike IconThe Gates Assassin 13:08, 25 May 2008 (EDT)
Sliver Armor lasts 12sec, with Glyph of Swiftness we got a recharge time of 22.5sec. 20% HSR (Halves skill recharge) will make every 5th Sliver armor recharge in 11.25sec. Air of Superiority got 10% change of recharging all your skills, so every 10th kill should recharge Sliver armor instantly. Also keep in mind that killing a boss will recharge all skills. Ashes 15:03, 25 May 2008 (EDT)
no, you can never reduce the recharge time below 50%.--Reason.decrystallized 16:00, 25 May 2008 (EDT)

Because? Ashes 16:04, 25 May 2008 (EDT)

You can't, the game won't allow more than 50%. Frost eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! 16:09, 25 May 2008 (EDT)
because that's the way that the game is programmed.--Reason.decrystallized 16:17, 25 May 2008 (EDT)
I didn't know that :O, that makes Sliver form recharge @ 15sec every 5th time.. Ashes 16:22, 25 May 2008 (EDT)

It's apparent that this is Omega reliable for farming mob based enemies, but is it possible to kill single targets? [I.E. Dungeon Boss-like foes, or creatures without any major self heals ( Wars, Eles, Sins, ect.)] YellowPikminKaze 01:57, 26 May 2008 (EDT)

yes it is, just use the dagger variant of this build. (you will see it on the great farming build section)--Trev 08:11, 29 May 2008 (EDT)

Deadly Arts?

Why does this build have points in Deadly Arts? The only thing it does it make Deadly Paradox last a second or two longer, no? Does that extra bit help any?

Not really, but you've got the points to spare and nothing else to put them in, so why not? --71.229 03:21, 26 May 2008 (EDT)
The cutoff to make swiftness effect 2 is at 4, which we can't hit, so mind as well.--GatessMoebius Strike IconThe Gates Assassin 09:14, 26 May 2008 (EDT)

bonder

pair with a monk hero using protective bond (+ whatever else, mending, succor, etc.) ... works great on the dagger one, should be awesome here as well ... it would let you handle a lot of the mobs in DoA with untargeted AoE, especially in gloom and the city (can't deal with chilblains in foundry, not sure about veil). i'm going to give it a try tomorrow, anybody else feel free, too.--Reason.decrystallized 19:57, 26 May 2008 (EDT)

thats actually a good idea to stop dervishes from screwing you, that is if they dont hit you too often. Larsie538 06:40, 27 May 2008 (EDT)
you know the big mob that rushes at you in ravenheart gloom? I've tanked them for 10-15 minutes at a stretch (using the dagger build).--Reason.decrystallized 06:46, 27 May 2008 (EDT)
ummm last i checked chilblains didn't go through shadowform and hasn't for awhile Riff 02:13, 30 May 2008 (EDT)
yeah i realized. that update happened while i was off the game for a while, so i missed it.--Reason.decrystallized 05:37, 30 May 2008 (EDT)
Oya try it, yeah and Chillbrains dont go thru shadowform anymoar. :3 --Super Igor File:Igor Ninjask.png *ninja!!* 05:47, 30 May 2008 (EDT)
okay, seriously: with a bonder you can rescue the dudes in gloom with this in hm, and cut a swath through city in hm. good times.--Reason.decrystallized 20:19, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

How do you handle the energy loss in city HM? Just regen and win?

the bonder takes succor, and you take GoLE. heroes don't suffer the energy loss for some reason.--Reason.decrystallized 06:11, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

Better possible variant

This is what i use currently for this, I think it works much better than the build: 1) GLoS 2) Deadly Paradox 3) Shadow Form 4) GLo Lesser Energy 5) Ebon Battle Standard of Wisdom 6) Intensity 7) Sliver Armor 8) Optional: Shadow Refuge for Touch/AoE Bosses Usage: Use first 3 in order, then use 4-5-6-1-7-8(optional). You want 16 Shadow Arts, 12 Earth, 3 Deadly Arts with a Totem Axe/Earth Scroll or similar. I Raptor Farm HM even the broodmother with this no problem.Way of The Assassin <font-color=purple>Steel_Darkblade <font-color=purple>(Talk) 23:12, 26 May 2008 (EDT)

That's the Perma Sliver Form build. - GenericWikier1 Generic Wiki-er 23:40, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
Lolz, just reading through random build discussions and realized I was linking it to itself. Must have thought I was posting on another perma build :P sorry if there was any confusion - GenericWikier1 Generic Wiki-er 14:23, 25 June 2008 (EDT)
It's not the same build. Perma Sliver Form doesn't use Battle Standard of Wisdom--Vgfanatic2 10:07, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
Yeah, but at the time I thought he was commenting on a dagger SF farmer. - GenericWikier1 Generic Wiki-er 10:29, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Elemental Sword farmer

So where's it? Someone deleted (merged) my version. u cant use deaths charge cause u can get stuck with no escape, the dervs there can still kill u with pbaoe. Atleast note it in there somewhere...--Relyk Purifying Veil SigRELYK (Talk | Edits) 23:14, 26 May 2008 (EDT)

Sliver armor not only kills them before they can if you have at least 300 health, but Air of Superiority will also heal you too (50 health 20% chance). I've never been killed on that run.--GatessMoebius Strike IconThe Gates Assassin 23:30, 26 May 2008 (EDT)

UW

just so everyone knows, this build does UW HM easily. i wield a dom staff (20% ench and +20e) and the graspings only use fear me when they are about to die for some reason. i kill the graspings and most all aatxes in the first room then head to the smites and i kill every smite. a fast run is about 15 min and a slow one is about 20. lots of ectos ftw. fyi my variant has Shadow Refuge, Feigned, and Dark Escape. i dont really need dark escape but its nice sometimes i guess. for smites just use GoS, DP, then SF. then i use GoLE, sliver, SR, then feigned. that takes care of any AoE the smites cause from trying to heal. less than 20min HM solo smite run w/ aatxes ftw. i also use it to help people cap spiders and it might even be able to solo the entire UW, but a couple of essences would be important (charged blacknesses). i saw a couple of ppl Q.Qing because they couldnt kill smites with it. well, now you know for whoever is reading this. hooray for ectos. Takeyourpills55 18:42, 31 May 2008 (EDT)

Side note, Grasps only use "Fear Me!" when they're near death because it's the only time they can. Adrenaline charges with damage (4 strike = dealt 100% of max health in damage iirc), so when they're near death (they'll probably regen a teensy bit of health) they unload. - GenericWikier1 Generic Wiki-er 18:45, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
Not all adren strike requirements are equal, some skills really need 3 and 1/2 of strike - takes same amount of hits ot generate, but is noticeable when you receive damage. to fully charge Fear Me you need to gain adrenaline equivalent to loosing 80% HP. Enemies have plenty of time to use it and they do, no need to regen or anything. 194.228.18.137 01:44, 2 June 2008 (EDT)
^ Ok then, what the IP said. - GenericWikier1 Generic Wiki-er 02:33, 2 June 2008 (EDT)

Video

Great examples of where it works, but terrible music.--71.67.243.230 23:07, 31 May 2008 (EDT)

Hehe i know, but not my film xD Ashes 06:46, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

Woohoo buff

The introduction of the PvP/PvE variations now made Shadow Form lasts for a glorious 36-38 seconds!!--Dark Paladin X 20:51, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

Hence Perma Sliver Form. Shadow Form has become so popular that you have to wait at the Rune Trader for an hour before you can get a Rune of Superior Shadow Arts. XD -Mike 20:57, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

I had some Sup Shadow in storage :D R061N 08:54, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

Videos of Using a similar A/E Sliver build. Check them out.

Hey, I just wanted to let some people know that I also had posted a similar build/guide on guru within the first hour of the all-mighty SF update. I also made a few videos that show several areas to farm with A/E Sliver. I also wanted to say, that in no way did I "copy" anyones build when I posted mine on guru. I rarely come on PvX to be honest. But yeah, I actually came up with my own A/E build without anyones help and I am not in anyone trying to take anyones credit on similar builds. But of course, thousands of people caught on to the new SF buff and the use of Glyph of Swiftness witin the first hour of update... and everyone already knew about A/E sliver builds since beginning of Factions release. But yeah, I also have a guide for my A/E build on guru along with a few long farming videos. Enjoy! (ReZDoGG 15:41, 3 June 2008 (EDT))

Check em out here:

A/E Master Sliver of Swiftness - Part 1

A/E Master Sliver of Swiftness - Part 2

A/E Master Sliver of Swiftness - Part 3 (New)

A/E Master Sliver of Swiftness - Full IDS Run (HM) (ReZDoGG 15:41, 3 June 2008 (EDT))

This build was made over 12 hours before the update, and postet 15min after, lol - the neverending fight ;) Ashes 09:53, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

In case you didn't notice, nobody gives a flying fuck here who originally created whatever build. Selket Shadowdancer 10:09, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

it is policy that the community--and not the original authors--own a build. besides which, the concept is sufficiently obvious that three thousand people came up with it simultaneously.--Reason.decrystallized 12:33, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
Here is said policy before anyone asks; PvX:OWN - GenericWikier1 Generic Wiki-er 20:39, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
ReZDoGG didn't say he owned the build, just that he made a similar build (pretty damn fast, too) and he submitted some videos for us to use, so we should be thankful. =P -Mike 20:59, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
Reason why I said I didn't copy anyones build, was because someone came on one of my videos and was like "My build, glad you like". So in a way, I was like WTF. I mean, like I said, everyone has been using A/E sliver builds since factions like I have. I used to use A/E sliver for doing some major boss farming in Factions and Nightfall, when greens were actually worth something. But yeah, of course everyone thought of using Glyph of Swiftness soon as update arrive, some even knew about it before the update went live. But then again, I posted my guide/build as soon as I thought about it cause it was just exciting to use, and of course it took a half hour or so to write a guide. But its all good, no need to get hostile here. I just didn't want people think I came here, found this build... then went and spent an hour writing my own guide with someones idea. Thats all I was trying to say. But yeah, I was kinda like WTF when someone posted that comment on one of my videos. I personally don't post videos for other peoples builds, I leave that up to them :) I am just glad Sins just own even more now, My sin has been my main character for almost 2 years now... Great to finally see alot more people realize how good they really are. (ReZDoGG 06:08, 5 June 2008 (EDT))
I farm with my Sin, and PvE General with my Imbagon. XD -Mike 15:25, 5 June 2008 (EDT)

Added new video to list, check it out: A/E Master Sliver of Swiftness - Part 3 (New) (ReZDoGG 03:09, 10 June 2008 (EDT))

Yes I AM very lazy

On my assassin, I hardly did EOTN, (only completed the charr parts), and now I don't feel like doing the asura parts tonight.

Is Air of Superiority a necessity? I do plan on getting it... just not tonight... because I am a lazy ass. xD Dances With Pets 22:07, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

You don't need it, it is just very nice to have it (check out what it does, very useful), but it works perfectly fine without it /FrosTalk\ 22:04, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
Ah, okay. Thanks very much! :D Dances With Pets 22:07, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

Hay, I'm lazier

I havent even bothered doin EoTN with my sin, Do I still ahve to posibility to farm UW HM.. tha darned Aataxes seem unwilling..Kiting bastards! (83.109.78.120 20:35, 18 June 2008 (EDT))

Don't use this for UW. Use the Chaos Fields Farmer. Way more ectos.--GatessMoebius Strike IconThe Gates Assassin 21:46, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
why waste time with the 20 or so aatxes when you could be killing the 200 mindblade spectres faster?--Reason.decrystallized 00:26, 19 June 2008 (EDT)
0.0 is it really 200 lol? --GatessMoebius Strike IconThe Gates Assassin 00:35, 19 June 2008 (EDT)
18 spectres per horsey, plus pop-ups. if it's not, it's close.--Reason.decrystallized 18:31, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

Farming locations

We don't have any. Discuss. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 09:58, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

most of UW. lots of FoW.--Reason.decrystallized 10:53, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
Raptors, Monolith Temple, All of the eternal grove explorable--GatessMoebius Strike IconThe Gates Assassin 12:49, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

Guild Wars Guru

Could we, with saying it's from there, copy their farming locations and add on to them?

Since it doesn't seem like they are adding to it. > .>

The list is here: [1]

I am sure we could do a better job at finding farming locations since they don't add to it. (I think) Dances With Pets 13:28, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

I do updated it if find new areas, but I pretty much found all the good ones worth farming, or most of them anyways. I still try it out in new areas here and there. Only campaign I really haven't tested the build much there, is Propheces, which I am sure there are more places there it can farm. I have just been busy doing other things atm. If you guys find any places worth farming that are not mentioned, let me know and I'll add them. (ReZDoGG 19:34, 22 June 2008 (EDT))
If you can do a better job, lets see it :) (ReZDoGG 08:57, 24 June 2008 (EDT))
I don't recall ever saying I could do better. Ever. > .< Dances With Pets 15:29, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

Ranks?

I have a low lvl vanguard rank and no asura rank yet. What will I need them to be at for this build to be any good? --Vgfanatic2 13:12, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

Shouldn't need to high rank, the higher the faster though. Godbox GodlyCompanion-cube 13:35, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

destroyer challenge

i farm cores with that build but i cant survive at the second wave.any tips?

It depends on what's killing you. If it's Destroyers of Compassion's Heart of Holy Flame, you could try to take the Bonder, but I'm not sure if he would be killed by the Destroyers. -Mike 07:45, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

Energy Problems

How do you maintain energy if you use Glyph of Swiftness on Sliver Armor instead of Glyph of Lesser Energy. I keep messing up and I don't want to use Glyph of Lesser Energy on Sliver Armor cause it makes it slower recharge. --Vgfanatic2 12:49, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

I assume that's what Air of Superiority is for. You shouldn't need Glyph of Lesser Energy if you've got decent ranks. -Mike 12:49, 25 June 2008 (EDT)
You use glyph of lesser energy on Sliver armor...For certain farms there are huge mobs so air of superiority will give you +5 energy for a lot of the kills so you can use Swiftness on Sliver, however if the group is small, don't. Basically, If you think you would still be able to cast Shadow form again by the time you need to, go ahead, if not, don't.--GatessMoebius Strike IconThe Gates Assassin 13:00, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

Thx. --Vgfanatic2 13:12, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

Nerf

Imo this is one of the few builds that can still somewhat survive. I'm sure the monolith temple can still be farmed, along with raptor and a few other areas with ridiculous mob size--GatessMoebius Strike IconThe Gates Assassin 00:45, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Byesf-Nah.--File:Canderousssig2.JPG Çâñdëròú§§ ¿ 00:49, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
So you're saying that a farm where every time one of the 110 enemies attacks or fails a spell, thus causing about 20 damage, isn't enough to farm it? Oh ok.--GatessMoebius Strike IconThe Gates Assassin 01:58, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

.......

Soo... they nerfed the build, which made it considerably slower... even though it was still a slower build for killing things.

It was always slow... but it was safe. Now not only have they made it even slower, it is no longer safe... >.< Dances With Pets 11:28, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

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