Archive talk:A/E Shadow Bomber

i herd they use soj--ShadowRelyk 07:28, 27 November 2008 (EST)

lol they are mesmers... fail. Zzes Tyan 19:15, 2 December 2008 (EST)

How do you take Blackpowder to Jaga? Spaggage talk 15:22, 19 January 2009 (EST)

Nevermind. Tested it by running round. Works fine. Spaggage talk 16:46, 19 January 2009 (EST)

What title ranks do you need for this build to work? --66.252.176.74 17:02, 19 January 2009 (EST)

Cleaned up and moved to Trial. Discuss. Spaggage talk 07:56, 21 January 2009 (EST)

thank you for adding this.... now everyone will know and it'll get nerfed.

i recall some of them use SoJ. is the healing enough for it?ƃuoן sı ʇɐɔƃuoן 22:18, 21 January 2009 (EST)

None use SoJ. Life 22:22, 21 January 2009 (EST)

Errr, all you need is some decent heals and vow of silence or something to kill them--File:Relyk sig747.JPGRelyk_||_I hammers u! 22:54, 21 January 2009 (EST)

Number of gold drops is ridiculous, saint and I each managed to do 500+ golds in 6-7hours of farming--GoldenStar 22:55, 21 January 2009 (EST)

cool lets post farming builds on pvx so the prices of those items drop drastically. what a wonderful idea. Gringo 23:04, 21 January 2009 (EST)

[1]--File:Relyk sig747.JPGRelyk_||_I hammers u! 00:19, 22 January 2009 (EST)

Well I can see the number of golds dropping rapidly in the next month or so. Though I love running SoO. The build was even posted here and I can still charge 10-12k per person. Would adding some sort of damage skill speed anything up or does it not even matter? 10:24, 23 January 2009

wouldnt matter at all, kegs kill in like ~7 seconds if you drop properly, usually less. Gringo 11:13, 23 January 2009 (EST)

this build is by far the best one to farm golds for inscris/wisdom title^Close_ImpactPet Whale 11:17, 23 January 2009 (EST)

which is why it should be off pvx -.-' Gringo 11:26, 23 January 2009 (EST)

STFU^Close_ImpactPet Whale 11:30, 23 January 2009 (EST)

Gringo, in all honesty, you're being a complete moron. Just cause "it's on PvX" doesn't mean it gets instanerfed, if at all. --› Srs Beans R Srs 11:43, 23 January 2009 (EST)

who said anything about a nerf? its about prices, like when perma SF was posted and ectos dropped from 5k to 3k. and chill out, all i said was that i didn't like builds like this being posted on pvx, i can have my opinion about something so trivial without being called a moron. Gringo 11:49, 23 January 2009 (EST)

ectos are a complete different story,uno? farming 50 ectos a day is asking for a nerf, this isnt[and the GW 'economy' wont blow upby this]^Close_ImpactPet Whale 11:56, 23 January 2009 (EST)

KWIK TAEK OFF UWSC IT IWLL GET NURRFEFED TEW! Stop QQ-ing about non-existent nerfs pls, just keep the build on PvX. -- lyssan 12:41, 23 January 2009 (EST)

again, no one here is talking about nerfs.. Gringo 12:48, 23 January 2009 (EST)

it doesnt matter. it doesnt matter. it doesnt matter that this build is on pvx, the things u get there are merchfood annyway^Close_ImpactPet Whale 12:52, 23 January 2009 (EST)

thank you for adding this.... now everyone will know and it'll get nerfed.

l2read dear Gringo. 217.120.228.192 12:55, 23 January 2009 (EST)

some IP that couldnt even sign his comment added it, and lyssan caps locks his comment in response to it. very appropriate reaction ye ur right mr ip. Gringo 13:09, 23 January 2009 (EST)

It's says shadowstep to bludger. Shoulnd a shadowstep be added then? Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 13:43, 23 January 2009 (EST)

Return, Death's Retreat and Ebon Escape are all shadowsteps. Spaggage talk 13:47, 23 January 2009 (EST)

My guild has beeen doing this for a while already. Although all the credit does not go the the poster (I was mad cause I was thinking about posting it), it is worth being on PVX. I really just farm this for the wisdom title. also, it's great for event drops.--Vgfanatic2 16:05, 23 January 2009 (EST)

You have: 1. Ruined this farm. It will be same as Raptors. WHY YOU HAVE WROTTEN IT ON PVX?! 2. F**ked SF. Gz o.O 83.29.127.20 03:35, 24 January 2009 (EST)

When I do this run, I only kill the vaetiir on the side with more of them, just because it takes 1 min to kill 30 something, or 2 mins to kill 60. It's just a suggestion, but its more kills per hour.--Vgfanatic2 16:57, 24 January 2009 (EST)

Titles

I usually dislike playing on my sin but this is looks interesting. What title ranks do you need for the pve skills and why use "IAU!" if Spectral Vaettir do not knock down? --68.82.225.152 13:50, 23 January 2009 (EST)

It's for the run (Modniir ftl) --› Srs Beans R Srs 13:51, 23 January 2009 (EST)

and you dont always need it, i use dash instead of IAU on my second account because it has no title skills. Gringo 13:53, 23 January 2009 (EST)

Ok, good to know then. Thanks. --68.82.225.152 14:03, 23 January 2009 (EST)

HM

Is this possible in HM? I cant find it in the article, im struggling with the run in HM atm NeoBro 15:12, 23 January 2009 (EST)

It should only be done in HM. The easiest way is to go the long way in the second zone (going down and then heading up through the mountains). If you go the top way its faster but Trample goes through SF and it might kill you. Gringo 15:19, 23 January 2009 (EST)

Ahh thank you so much, them candy apples are getting wasted... cheers :D NeoBro 15:20, 23 January 2009 (EST)

Wow, i see why this is farmed now... and why NM sucked, awesome build :) NeoBro 16:03, 23 January 2009 (EST)

If low on energy...

Try using this for the running build...

Shadow Arts: 12+3+1

Inspiration Magic: 12

The two optionals should be filled with the suggests posted in this build. However, you can switch the Heart of Shadow/Viper's Defence for "I am unstopable" if you want to take the shorter, harder way (the one with all the modniirs). This build is pretty easy to use once you get used to the echo timing. Also, Auspicious Incantation does not effect the recharge of echo because right after u use echo, that recharge will be longer; however, after it is replaced by the copied sf, the recharge starts over, and it isn't affected by the extra recharge. Lastly, dark escape lasts longer because you wont have to use deadly paradox while dark escape is in affect. I just cast Auspicious right after dark escape ends (you have a few extra seconds between it ending and when you need to cast echo.

For those who dont know, cast in this order:

1>2>3>4>5>6>3(when the recharge of sf is at about the bottom left corner)>(restart the process as soon as dark escape ends by casting 1, then continue with the chain when echo has recharged)--Vgfanatic2 16:45, 23 January 2009

why? running there is the hard part, and once ur there energy is a breeze (you just keep up SF and use deaths retreat to the dwarf). People should take the extra 90 seconds to run the long way because theyll be farming there for so long its not like ittl make a difference. energy shouldn't be a question at all really... Gringo 16:48, 23 January 2009 (EST)

After the last sf nerf, you have to recharge sf more often and its harder to maintain energy.--Vgfanatic2 17:29, 23 January 2009 (EST)

You merely have to maintain it, which takes 4 pips of energy regen. Guess what? Sins have 4 :) --› Srs Beans R Srs 17:32, 23 January 2009 (EST)

Just look at the Perma Running Build discussion page.--Vgfanatic2 17:35, 23 January 2009 (EST)

Perma runners generally use more skills than just GoS/DP/SF, eh? --› Srs Beans R Srs 17:37, 23 January 2009 (EST)

What about the other 10 energy from dark escape and dwarven stability. Also, with this you have dark escape up more of the time.--Vgfanatic2 17:38, 23 January 2009 (EST)

Also note that i titled this: If low on energy. I posted this to help people out and to keep annoying energy questions off the discussion page.--Vgfanatic2 17:49, 23 January 2009 (EST)

Peeplez stop bein greedy/paranoid...it's not as if this idea hasn't been around since sf was buffed in the first place.

Anyhoo when I do this I bring dark escape dash shadow refuge and heart of shadow. I find shadow refuge comes in handy if you feel like fighting the pop ups with soj and other things that go through sf. You can easily kill them if you drop the barrels well before they come up to you. Also when you get to the vaettirs heart of shadow makes it easier to get out of their body blocking and get to ogden again. Oh yea and farming the berserk animals near olafstead is another VERY profitable farm. Plus it has a boss. Warning you HAVE to pre drop the barrels when Bison are there or they will annihilate you.

somebodyyyy

Post a video. I'm too tired to read usage. --ShazamLovesObama _{obamaobamaobamaobamaobama} 01:56, 24 January 2009 (EST)

basically just go out through northwest entrance in HM, go south until you hit portal, go through, then go the downwards route, cut up through mountains to next portal, then hug left wall till ur there. once there just round them up (starting on the left) into two groups, kill each one at a time. then just portal and redo. Gringo 02:25, 24 January 2009 (EST)

Oh yea I am unstoppable isn't necessary for all you people who don't have it. Just make sure you have shadows refuge and pre drop lots of barrels for the modiniirs.

actually if you do it perfectly you never have to aggro any of them. Gringo 10:32, 24 January 2009 (EST)

You just have to take a longer, less difficult way around ;) I'm posting a video of this very soon so Shazam won't have to read. -- lyssan 12:07, 24 January 2009 (EST)

Thanks much. --ShazamLovesObama _{obamaobamaobamaobamaobama} 14:08, 24 January 2009 (EST)

Video uploaded. It's being processed right now so it should be fully working in the next 5-10 minutes. -- lyssan 20:15, 24 January 2009 (EST)

My Problem..

You cant damage the shrine gaurd with the kegs, so no Norn Rep for me QQ --—Daɽkɘʃʂ ӍcÇɧaoʂmonǥɘɼ ^{Help me plz!!!} 12:00, 24 January 2009 (EST)

kill it with another build first, then he will always give it to you. ---Chaos- 12:03, 24 January 2009 (EST)

wdo you mean kill him there with a build, then it will always be available? --—Daɽkɘʃʂ ӍcÇɧaoʂmonǥɘɼ ^{Help me plz!!!} 12:09, 24 January 2009 (EST)

yes.. ---Chaos- 12:12, 24 January 2009 (EST)

so kegfarm finally hit wiki

well idk why you all are "testing" it, its been used since last year, now we just have to wait for the nerf from anet--162.40.204.45 12:28, 24 January 2009 (EST)

all you get is unIDs doubt theyll nerf it Gringo 12:30, 24 January 2009 (EST)

And 5 votes gets it into whatever working category, regardless of however long the build has been used for or how effective it is. -- lyssan 12:31, 24 January 2009 (EST)

PvX has never and will never be a reference for Anet. Rickyvantof 12:53, 24 January 2009 (EST)

only people on gwguru think it is :O -- 20:18, 24 January 2009

And evilman. -- lyssan 20:22, 24 January 2009 (EST)

Why me? xD EVILMAN!= 20:48, 24 January 2009 (EST)