Talk: A/Me Chaos Ledge Farmer

I' have been using this build for a while now its is extremely fast and harldt causes scatter my fastest time with it is 30seconds--Jpuzimaki13 23:31, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good, i'll test in a bit. But this might be an extremely dumb question, but it's for NM right, or HM? ᴌᴏᴄᴋᴅᴏᴡᴎ6435 01:06, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

whats scattering and when does it occur. work it out.--Oskar 01:48, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Caster's don't scatter on hard mode, melee does. Hur dur dur. Docta Jenkins 03:27, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I've done it in nm and hm nm is the fastest way if you do decide to do hard mode you would need to echo ether instead of chaos storm too prevent the degen takes a long amount of time so i would preffer nm. For the Scattering They will not attempt to scatter until the last damage dealt from chaos storm due to there low health. also from cop damage if casted too soon the multiple damage packets will have them scatter.--Jpuzimaki13 05:27, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Speed

This is way faster than the other ledge farm we have.

Thank you ^^ just another one of the builds that my alliance keeps in our vault :D--Jpuzimaki13 18:39, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Hard mode

I just found a way to farm the dudes in hard mode with the reverse build to this using a mesmer primary using this <pvxbig> [build prof=Me/A fas=10+1+3 dom=8+3 sha=12][Deadly Paradox][Shadow Form][Shroud of Distress][Arcane Echo][Chaos Storm][Ether Nightmare (Kurzick)][Cry of Pain][Death's Charge][/build] </pvxbig>

with fast casting will reduce ether recharge to keep it up 90% of the time ^^--Jpuzimaki13 19:29, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

someone needs to fix the energy cost of chaos storm it only cost 5 energy not 15--Jpuzimaki13 19:35, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

It's updated in our editcopy of the database, but wikia hasn't sync'd it yet. Don't know if they will remember to. ToraenTheJanitor 22:22, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I understand but the way people in pvx are they look at the build w/o testing it or looking at how it looks in-game and trash it :(--Jpuzimaki13 04:13, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

WTS Channeling --Chin pon 17:36, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

why would you need channeling. read disc and notes--Jpuzimaki13 03:15, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Coz in HM things aint gonna die so fast. --Chin pon 08:05, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Zealous weapons--Oskar 12:03, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

You are gonna be half the time casting spells, you won't have enough time to load energy. --Chin pon 12:45, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Well if your not using a high energy set then would be best you to use something for e-management but channeling would not work out so well due to the fact that you would have to get close to the dryders and dream riders which will cause a fast scatter in hm just by getting close to them.--Jpuzimaki13 01:47, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Sooo

why didn't you just update tombs farm?--Relyk _talk 10:28, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

I offered the build to be merged with tombs but they did not accept it.--66.69.115.252 16:21, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

although they did accept my other builds like waestrals.--66.69.115.252 16:21, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Please.

I have met the creator of this build, and his wishes were very clear that it should not end up on PvX. Therefore, out of respect for his wishes I kindly suggest that you please remove it. 98.210.8.185 17:23, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

I would Like the thank you for your concern But I decided to Share This Build Since Im IN the making of a few better ones.--Jpuzimaki13 19:06, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

Alternate usage

Hey there, thanks for reading. After trying the build numerous times, I discovered that the scatter mentioned when casting CoP early DOESN'T MATTER. The mobs die because of the degen anyway.

Old Usage:

• Go to the corner near ledge.
• Pre-cast Shroud of Distress and Shadow Form.
• Shadow Step to a Dryder or Dream Rider and begin balling.
• After balling is finished cast SF again.
• Cast Arcane Echo → Chaos Storm → echoed Chaos Storm.
• Wait for the health of the dryder to get to the dr(yd)er part of his name or Dre(am) in the Riders name.
• As soon as their health reaches that area begin casting Ether Nightmare
• Cast Cry of Pain right after the 2nd to last or last storm deals its damage(casting CoP too early will cause scatter).

My Usage:

• ... (same as above)
• Wait for the health of the dryder to get to the dr(yd)er part of his name or Dre(am) in the Riders name.
• As soon as their health reaches that area begin casting Ether Nightmare, directly followed by CoP.
• Wait for the degen to kill the mobs.

This has never failed - every time I used this timing the mobs scattered, but died because of the degen caused by CoP and Ether Nightmare.

Additional information: Luxon r1 Sunspear r8 (<-- might cause my CoP to be more effective)

Well reason for cast cop later is reduce chances of scatter before chaos storm runs out(Multiple damage packets with both chaos storms and cop will instantly cause scatter). rank 3 kurzick is cause you are at 7 degen and cop at r1 would br 3 reaching the maximum degen allowed in game which is 10 reaching r8 and r1 kurz or lux can do the same thing but takes a little bit longer to work on. and faction titles are account wide while sunspear is per character they are suppose to scatter exactly when cop is casted or the end of chaos storm due to either multiple dmg packets as I explained or low health--Jpuzimaki13 01:43, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ecto

Is there a difference in the drop rates when the world has no favor? I seem to get most of mine when there isnt... Jimmylad 08:28, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

New Build

I would like to thank the nice people of pvx that rated this build great ^^ as thanks the [pawn] guild has made a new build that farms nm in less and literally less then 30seconds without scatter, and can farm hm in a 1min-2min here is the build <pvxbig> [build prof=A/Me dom=11 ins=6 sha=12][Deadly Paradox][Shadow Form][Shroud of Distress][Optional][Ether Nightmare (Kurzick)][Wastrel's Demise][Cry of Pain][Death's Charge][/build] </pvxbig>

optionals normal mode: Waestrals worry chaos storm by urals hammer

hard mode: Channeling Drain enchantment SPIRIT OF FAILURE waste not want not

video will be up soon

So how bout signing your posts so we can actually see when you posted this? -MonstaInYoWoods 07:27, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Surely

Wastrel's Demise > Ether. Frosty 06:24, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Wastrels new nerf is similar to the damage dealt by chaos storm but minus the scattering. there no degen in the skill anymore so taking ether+cop=max degen then spamming wastrels on 1 or multiple targets would kill them off in a mere 25seconds shoot it can be some times less if your fast enough--66.69.115.252 12:23, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

tried and seems slower--86.42.87.211 12:20, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

on the contrary, I tried it and its FASTER, with chaos storm in the optional slot109.156.113.84 18:48, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

worth it?

i dont think so...ectos drop maybe every 20-30 run...so except from botting this seems pointless.Illoyon 21:03, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

It's a lot more often then that, I remember when I did the ledge after the SF nerf I would get 1 or 2 every 5 runs. Frosty 08:19, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Works v well if you are botting though, I average 2-3 ecto an hour and run two accounts in alternating 12 hour shifts ^_____^ --TahiriVeila 14:54, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

I think its a lot of luck. I got 2 on my first run, and a few single drops fairly quickly after that I'm up to about 8 ectos and I've farmed maybe an hour total. But I need one more rank for my COP to finish them off. :| 74.42.186.231 14:24, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

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Tip for balling?

Whatever I do - the three riders disperse in such a way that at least one of them is very far away from the others - given the fact that you run out of energy soon ... is there a trick to keep the riders together so that you can draw the dryders into them? 79.216.203.87 18:12, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Before you death's charge in target the dryders not the riders, there is a point where the riders go back far enough for you to death's charge in pull them all(including riders) to the ledge 86.145.18.91 11:56, October 27, 2010 (UTC)

Don't farm this if you can't even ball lol. Demonic Sin Ex 00:39, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

This isn't the easiest pull - I'm a seasoned farmer (easily 60 million+ exp of farming, if not more) but I tried starting from the ledge and waiting for dream riders and dryders to come to me and then running around and away from the ledge, but that causes the dream riders to scatter. The trick seems to be to run around the ledge, shadow step to the dryders, then run away from the ledge, wait for the dream riders to aggro, then pull all the way back to the ledge. --Falseprophet 17:21, January 7, 2011 (UTC)