Checked and Reviewed

For Viability. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 06:51, 7 June 2007 (CEST)

Is that how were supposed to do it? ‽-(єronħ) no u 21:37, 7 June 2007 (CEST)

Can I ask why there is 7+1 in shadow when the seven-second limit on FN is 7 shadow? So wouldn't it make more sense to have 6+1 and then have 6 illusion? 15:04, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

You have a point, but it doesn't matter in this case. If you didn't kill something in 14 seconds, you aren't going to kill it in 16. -Auron 15:14, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

I prefer Blinding Powder instead of Black Lotus Strike.

Those skills are a tad unrelated. You can't really swap one out for the other and expect a good build. ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 00:59, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

Attributes and Runes

Haven't tested it yet (but will in AB), just skilling my PvP Char at the moment and saw that you don't need a Shadow Arts rune. Feigned Neutrality lasts 7 seconds without it too. Also I rather take runes of Vitae and Survivor Insignas on head, arms and feet (I get 530 hp and 30 energy without daggers)... for energy management zealous daggers should do... theoretical --Nifty 19:24, 5 August 2007 (CEST)


Do you think that combined with critical defense and way of perfection, this could possibly be a solo mele farmer build? 20:29, 12 August 2007 (CEST)

There are far better assassin farming builds out there, and it's pretty unlikely that you'll be able to kill large groups with degen and only crit defense to protect yourself.RebirthofDragon 19:54, 22 August 2007 (CEST)

Dash should be switched for deadly paradox even with no points in deadly arts because you can teleport out and use feigned and it recharges very quickly.Zealous Benediction MasterOfGuild's 18:13, 20 September 2007 (CEST)


Says that a build working on conditions works well with this build. can anyone suggest a hero build that does this? --STRANGER 07:54, 6 November 2007 (CET)


Black Lotus is no longer an Off-hand attack.-ДтL 22:21, 18 November 2007 (CET)

doesn't matter, it was always used for energy anyways. you go straight into BSS after it, so the chain isn't affected. FrenzyPunjab 22:29, 18 November 2007 (CET)
Fixed. UnrealHavocSigUnreal Havoc 03:19, 19 November 2007 (CET)

Optional slots?

Description text mentions optional slots, but all slots are filled and there's no indication off which skills are considered optional. Either the line "To fill in the Optional slots, look in the Variants section for many different uses for this build." needs to be removed, or some slots should be left empty to make the text and the build consistent. --CJNyfalt 13:27, 20 November 2007 (CET)


Cry of Pain. --Assassin-icon The Gates Assassin 20:40, 3 December 2007 (CET)


hao mn y dmgs does dis bild haf? —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş Grinshpon blinky cake 23:30, 25 January 2008 (EST)

Moar dan 1. less dan 08:22, 17 May 2008 (EDT)


Just wondering why this was archived... I dont personally see anything wrong with it and I still use it alot in AB.--Tyris 14:49, 26 May 2008 (EDT)

Yea, plz someone explain, whats the matter?

Oh dang this build is old and so much inferior to balanced...sure it must be Archived. --Super Igor File:Igor Ninjask.png *ninja!!* 05:57, 30 May 2008 (EDT)
Should be taken out of archive, it rocks!Howe304sigHowe304 14:38, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
Still use it. --Lann-sf2 Lann 01:25, 8 June 2008 (EDT)
Old? With Lotus Strike? --Lann-sf2 Lann 01:25, 8 June 2008 (EDT)
The point is, it's not effective anymore with the many other options. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 02:19, 8 June 2008 (EDT)
If anything, I find that the team build should be archived instead if this. It isn't necessary to run two Sins in order to cover more conditions. I find this build to still work great, although I used Trampling Ox and Falling Spider in my chain instead of Black Spider Strike. -Mike 09:03, 8 June 2008 (EDT)
The team build worked because it actually spread TONS of conditions (Poison, DW, Crippling, Daze, Blind, Bleeding) and because it could fuck with a mob. Doing it solo just makes some weak ass conditions for AB that just end up with you dead. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 09:07, 8 June 2008 (EDT)
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