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nerf sucks. Any suggestions/replacements? --[[Image:GoD Wario Sig.PNG]]<font color="Black"><small>*[[user talk:Guild of Deals|<font color="purple">'''Wah'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Guild of Deals|<font color="DAA520">'''Wah'''</font>]] <font color="purple">'''Wah!'''</font>*</small></font> 07:55, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
 
nerf sucks. Any suggestions/replacements? --[[Image:GoD Wario Sig.PNG]]<font color="Black"><small>*[[user talk:Guild of Deals|<font color="purple">'''Wah'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Guild of Deals|<font color="DAA520">'''Wah'''</font>]] <font color="purple">'''Wah!'''</font>*</small></font> 07:55, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
 
:Dancing daggers isn't an attack. So why would you replace it. [[User:Lord of all tyria|Lord of all tyria]] 07:58, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
 
:Dancing daggers isn't an attack. So why would you replace it. [[User:Lord of all tyria|Lord of all tyria]] 07:58, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
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::Mostly just plain old aftercast. Also, in usage it says "Use Shadow Walk to teleport to a foe (often for a sudden Twisting Fangs). Try to "anchor" yourself in the best spot possible." Can't do that when your attacks are disabled for 1 second and you have an aftercast. --[[Image:GoD Wario Sig.PNG]]<font color="Black"><small>*[[user talk:Guild of Deals|<font color="purple">'''Wah'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Guild of Deals|<font color="DAA520">'''Wah'''</font>]] <font color="purple">'''Wah!'''</font>*</small></font> 08:00, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

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bring yer own bild — SkaKid 16:48, 25 April 2008 (EDT)

Actually, no! This character is part of a real team build for my Guild. It even kills Dark Alley smurfs:

DaiiSplit1

DaiiSplit2

Super fun. Zuranthium 17:11, 25 April 2008 (EDT)

obaby — SkaKid 17:12, 25 April 2008 (EDT)
Also that better not be an ineptitood mesmer with Fragility tacked on. — SkaKid 19:21, 25 April 2008 (EDT)
It's a Sig Illusions Mesmer. I'll post that one in a bit. Zuranthium 18:29, 26 April 2008 (EDT)
Isn't it like, Shell Shock, Immolate, Steam? — SkaKid 18:42, 26 April 2008 (EDT)

Team

Wouldn't this be better as a team build with the assa and mesmar? Klumpeet 06:49, 26 April 2008 (EDT)

As stated in description "This can also kill on its own" so no. ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹPanic srsbsns 07:32, 26 April 2008 (EDT)

Signet of Deadly Corruption must follow a dual attack, so you do have to be within melee range at some point to use twisting fangs. Mightymousemoush$ 2+2=4 $ 15:12, 27 April 2008 (EDT)

True, the wording on that should be cleaned up. The point is that you don't need always need to be in melee range. Can just Shadow Walk into Twisting, teleport right back out with Dash, and keep doing ranged damage. Zuranthium 20:10, 27 April 2008 (EDT)

should this build possibly have a variant mention on removing all points from death magic when playing with a fragility mesmer? -Youngnastyman 08:19, 27 May 2008 (EDT)

Haha

This is Great cause its meta, even tho people have made this build millions of times b4 (There's even one in my sandbox). Everyone said SoDC sux, too slow, but put it on gank and works perfectly, its meta! I rofl at PvXwiki, they can only see a build when a top guild uses it. -_-' --Relyk 18:33, 27 April 2008 (EDT)

The Assassin build in your sandbox with Signet of Deadly Corruption is bad. This one is not. Zuranthium 19:32, 27 April 2008 (EDT)
DAii is a top 200 (sinsplit) guild. Not a top guild. — SkaKid 19:44, 27 April 2008 (EDT)
Hey, we'll get top 50. If we ever start doing ATs. >_< Zuranthium 19:54, 27 April 2008 (EDT)
=p — SkaKid 20:24, 27 April 2008 (EDT)
And if we get a full dedicated team, lol. WTB monk buddy. Zuranthium 02:29, 28 April 2008 (EDT)

Obaby

;o — SkaKid 02:31, 28 April 2008 (EDT)

We didn't have a good Ele or HB Monk last night and that specific match was extra terrible because our split Mes couldn't move the first couple minutes of the match, so the split was all confused and of course since it was Druids Isle we basically got stuck in the base. Hopefully next time we can have a real match. ^_^ . Gj on your wins though, didn't know you were in that guild??? Zuranthium 17:15, 28 April 2008 (EDT)
Or actually nm, you're posting about the first match of the night that we lost, not the second one. That first one was better, we boosted and killed most of the NPCs I think, but then wiped cause of the two bad guests (zomg, we sooo would have wiped the opposing main team at one point as well if the Water Ele had bothered to do his job). Zuranthium 17:25, 28 April 2008 (EDT)
I'm just poking fun, I'm bad =P Also I'm in the epic TOOMZ DIVISION — SkaKid 17:41, 28 April 2008 (EDT)
Oh, tombs. Lol. Zuranthium 12:33, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

How can this build be AB without self heal? I tried, and it's terrible. The preceding unsigned comment was added by 98.221.149.216 (contribs) 22:50, 25 May 2008.

I heard playing with a team is good. Also, sign your comments. Zuranthium 04:33, 27 May 2008 (EDT)
Do you need someone to hold your hand? Replace Shadow Walk with Sadist's Signet. It's recharge is too long for AB's 12v12vNPC format anyways. P A R A S I T I C 00:41, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
That would be really dumb. Zuranthium 14:07, 23 June 2008 (EDT)
You make it sound like Shadow Walk is required for you to pull the combo off. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 22:05, 23 June 2008 (EDT)
Shadow Walk allows you to jump into a group of people/NPCs, get the Twisting Fangs off, and then jump out. Sadist's Signet isn't very useful. It's not always healing when you need it and you're going to die anyway if you try to stand there and tank. Zuranthium 23:38, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

Shadow Walk nerf...yikes. Zuranthium 00:23, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

Yea, it made it so you can't jump in and out as easily. Have to tele in at daggers if you don't wanna wait for the recharge. Mightymousemoush 19:01, 16 July 2008 (EDT)
It's actually probably not a big deal for this character, they will be crippled a lot of the time when you tele in and still won't be able to kite from the Twisting Fangs very well, but that little delay can make a difference. Zuranthium 18:07, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

Tbh-...-

im gonna disagree with the people, spike is actually very slow. damage is high but it gets outhealed quickly cause the spike takes 6 seconds to do not counting aftercast delay also with the nerf to shadow walk twisting fangs can be hard to time. Qoute: Jebus..

I do totally Agree tbh where is the element of suprise here? Idk how many Virulence SoDC builds which been unfavored, cant see this as a big wooah either.. Virulence is a kinda crap Elite.. To trigger the max from SoDC you allready have Cripple, Bleed and DW.. Altough using this whit Fragility ganker may be very good but theres so many better combos out there if your thinking team.. No Selfheal :( Makes this a sad ganker altough Dash - Shadow Walk can be used its stilled quite nerfed whit 1sec Disable then u again loose even moar suprise oO One Mtouch from the Ranger or if u face a Mrunner is gonnna screw this over.. Also:

3x 33dmg, Twisting Fangs, SoDC , SotS wont kill thou the degen is quite nice anyone whit selfheal will survive...

Effective' Not enuff killing power, easy countered by Condition removal.. No kd or disabling of any kind makes this easy to counter.. 6sec chain and no disabling oO. Easy to catch altough nice whit Armor Ingoring but its not enuff :/


Universality No selfheal, thou u have Dash Shadow Walk the 1sec Disabling is kinda boring, altough if u face a say a CC runner your quite fine (if u dont die first) but then they just send back a RC and puff ur out.. Failes in main team if pushed back all the time (they can just send back a ranger to counter this..) And to be real effiencent you need the SoI which then again lower uni since you need help to kill someone whit selfheal.. Altough can kill NPCS but whit no selfheal it can take some time :/ OR a interrupt for troll :/

Innovation Not the a new project whit Virulence + SoDC all got unfavored.. Altough this is one of the better builds, they cant just kill someone whit 660hp and some armor from shield..

Even thou DAI(some guild) uses it and wins doesnt make it insta win :/ at VoD and flagstand theire pretty useless :/ (RC spikke) Massive Image-Massive Sig 17:05, 23 July 2008 (EDT)

See my comment in vote box. Zuranthium 00:14, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

Shadow Walk

nerf sucks. Any suggestions/replacements? --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 07:55, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

Dancing daggers isn't an attack. So why would you replace it. Lord of all tyria 07:58, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
Mostly just plain old aftercast. Also, in usage it says "Use Shadow Walk to teleport to a foe (often for a sudden Twisting Fangs). Try to "anchor" yourself in the best spot possible." Can't do that when your attacks are disabled for 1 second and you have an aftercast. --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 08:00, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
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