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:I've seen it in RA/AB a few times, but it never worked out too well. Not enough damage, no IAS, no healing, etc. Maybe in GvG or something, where they might be able to afford having someone purely for interrupts. [[User:Silven|Silven]] 19:59, 17 March 2008 (EDT) |
:I've seen it in RA/AB a few times, but it never worked out too well. Not enough damage, no IAS, no healing, etc. Maybe in GvG or something, where they might be able to afford having someone purely for interrupts. [[User:Silven|Silven]] 19:59, 17 March 2008 (EDT) |
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I'll admit, I haven't tested this, but, it's hard to argue with interrupting your enemies 100% of the time, particularly when you combine that with a constant 33% IAS. The fact that it also has a constant 75% chance to block is just icing on the cake. I could of course be missing something, but.... 
*Defiant Elements* +talk 09:28, 2 September 2007 (CEST)
- Lol I can just see the Remnant of Antiquities cowering before me, unable to spit out a single 1k-damage Shatterstone... I do have to point out Choking Gas and Choking Gas Part 2, however. This build's got perma-IAS and perma-75% block, and also ridiculous energy management, while Choking Gas has unblockability and AoE. Looks like a matter of personal opinion to me, but I'll see if I can test it soon. As for improvements, I don't see much that can be done.
|GD Defender / contribs 09:34, 2 September 2007 (CEST) - On second thought, maybe something to burn that crazy energy management on would be good. Maybe Penetrating Attack or
Zojun's Shot(lol expertise) or something.|GD Defender / contribs 09:35, 2 September 2007 (CEST)
- Yeah, I know that Choking Gas has its advantages, however, I was speaking strictly in terms of the "rate" at which you'll interrupt a foe. Technically speaking, a group could interrupt a Dazed foe much faster, but then again, it's pretty damn hard to maintain Dazed on an entire group, whereas this can attack "anyone" and interrupt them instantly. Also, in PvE, you'll commonly find that what's most important is that a single boss or other large foe be interrupted repeatedly as opposed to an entire group (although obviously interrupting a group is good as well).
*Defiant Elements* +talk 09:44, 2 September 2007 (CEST) - The other reason I particularly like this build (and this has nothing to do with effectiveness) is that it gives PvE Assassins another role that they can fulfill. Sure, you can go A/R Crit Barrage, or you can use a MS/DB Sin, but, in total, there aren't really that many builds that standout for Assassins in PvE. This is a whole new area for Assassins, and, in fact, they do it as well (if not better) than Rangers. *Defiant Elements* +talk 09:47, 2 September 2007 (CEST)
- Yeah, autoattack interrupter sins. Might get boring after a while though. Also, Disrupting Accuracy interrupts non-spell skills while Choking Gas does not.
And Keen Arrow would be another perfect skill for the optional.*learns to read*|GD Defender / contribs 09:50, 2 September 2007 (CEST)
- Yeah, I realize that auto-attacking could be boring. However, something to note is that you could put two fast recharging Bow Attacks in there, and spam those, and they would still act as interrupts. And, the fact of the matter is that MS/DB Sins get boring as well since all you're doing is spamming. *Defiant Elements* +talk 09:56, 2 September 2007 (CEST)
- So, you could instead use something like:
- Yeah, I realize that auto-attacking could be boring. However, something to note is that you could put two fast recharging Bow Attacks in there, and spam those, and they would still act as interrupts. And, the fact of the matter is that MS/DB Sins get boring as well since all you're doing is spamming.
- Yeah, autoattack interrupter sins. Might get boring after a while though. Also, Disrupting Accuracy interrupts non-spell skills while Choking Gas does not.
- Yeah, I know that Choking Gas has its advantages, however, I was speaking strictly in terms of the "rate" at which you'll interrupt a foe. Technically speaking, a group could interrupt a Dazed foe much faster, but then again, it's pretty damn hard to maintain Dazed on an entire group, whereas this can attack "anyone" and interrupt them instantly. Also, in PvE, you'll commonly find that what's most important is that a single boss or other large foe be interrupted repeatedly as opposed to an entire group (although obviously interrupting a group is good as well).
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- or whatever other attack skills you'd prefer, and spam those instead (since they would interrupt just the same as auto-attacking or DShot) and that would amount to essentially the same thing as mindlessly spamming an attack chain. Or, you could use Focused Shot and fill the Optional Slot with a non-attack skill (Antidote Signet) for example, and mindlessly spam Focused Shot. *Defiant Elements* +talk 10:07, 2 September 2007 (CEST)
- or whatever other attack skills you'd prefer, and spam those instead (since they would interrupt just the same as auto-attacking or DShot) and that would amount to essentially the same thing as mindlessly spamming an attack chain. Or, you could use Focused Shot and fill the Optional Slot with a non-attack skill (Antidote Signet) for example, and mindlessly spam Focused Shot.
Criticals Stack Multiplicitively. --- 
Ressmonkey (talk) 01:15, 4 September 2007 (CEST)
- So you still get more than 70% (0.83*0.84*0.67*0.63=0.294 non-crits) crits with this setup. I was thinking you could replace Way of the Assassin with Barrage, you would still have more than 50%(0.83*0.84*0.67=0.467124 non-crits) crits and thus getting AoE interupting. Geraar 11:12, 4 September 2007 (CEST)
- Barrage removes Preparations, Disrupting Accuracy is a Preparation, therefore that idea fails. *Defiant Elements* +talk 19:10, 4 September 2007 (CEST)
- Ah right, you've got me there. The calculus is correct though ;).Geraar 18:22, 10 September 2007 (CEST)
- Barrage removes Preparations, Disrupting Accuracy is a Preparation, therefore that idea fails.
This'd be simply terrifying to behold XD --BeeD 05:49, 4 September 2007 (CEST)
- Needling Shot helps a ton. |GD Defender / contribs 06:49, 4 September 2007 (CEST)
- Yeah, I know, that's why it's in variants. I usually run Keen/Called and Needling. *Defiant Elements* +talk 07:59, 4 September 2007 (CEST)
- Yeah, I know, that's why it's in variants. I usually run Keen/Called and Needling.
Triple Shot could be very nice too, even with only the first Luxon/Kurzick title for possibly interrupting 3 foes at one time. Hans
- Err? You'd interrupt the same foe up to 3 times. Woo. Swiftslash \\ (contributions *warrior guide) 17:28, 5 September 2007 (CEST)
punjab good human rangers interrupt better than AI, simply because of timing/not wasting on dumb shit. Skakid9090 21:49, 9 September 2007 (CEST)
- I would also like to point out that Disrupting Accuracy interrupts normal attacks as well as skills. That means your target will be doing absolutely nothing once he gets below 50% health, provided you spam Needling Shot on him. |GD Defender / contribs 22:02, 9 September 2007 (CEST)
Am I missing something or does build have like the same DPS as a prim ranger? Swiftslash \\ 
(contributions *warrior guide) 19:01, 14 September 2007 (CEST)
Another useful skill?
Believe me or not, but I had the idea of nearly the same build :P except for one skill that may additionally be noted: Way of Perfection. Will give a nice selfheal, despite low ranks. For a bit less damage but more healing, Way of Perfection can then also be used. BTW, it's not a melee pve build, maybe you want to use Sunspear Rebirth Signet instead? —Zerpha
The Improver 15:05, 8 December 2007 (CET)
This Build
Is good, the bad vote should be looked at.Bob fregman 18:18, 27 December 2007 (EST)
- What, mine? Tell me how it's wrong. hen [contribs] 14:55, 28 December 2007 (EST)
PVP use?
im just looking at it and im thinking 75% block chance no melee gonna hit ya attacks interrupt...hell on healers ofc you wont attack as fast but to me it looks like it could have potential
- I've seen it in RA/AB a few times, but it never worked out too well. Not enough damage, no IAS, no healing, etc. Maybe in GvG or something, where they might be able to afford having someone purely for interrupts. Silven 19:59, 17 March 2008 (EDT)
Thats what i was thinking i mean could make healers lives really annoying Sryth 07:55 18 March 2008