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Doesn't this still count as my build build:A/W Insecurity Spiker ? DiamondTheory 12:01, 11 December 2008 (EST)

WELL imo.--Altruismliger Liger414 talk 12:01, 11 December 2008 (EST)
Well if the update does go to plan then i'll be the first one to say it right now that yours is a duplicate/inferior to mine xD DiamondTheory 12:02, 11 December 2008 (EST)
How do you know what the update's gonna do? SurpriseKarate Jesus 12:36, 11 December 2008 (EST)
[1]Fake IMO.--Altruismliger Liger414 talk 12:41, 11 December 2008 (EST)
Well, looking at the level of retardation and spelling/grammar mistakes? Maybe not.. --Many srs beans Srs Beans R Srs 12:43, 11 December 2008 (EST)
^ I loled.--Altruismliger Liger414 talk 12:44, 11 December 2008 (EST)
If it is real I have a feeling none of them will be the same, they all seem a bit too, lol meta worthy in an instant. LOOK AT POWER LEECH FFS. --Frosty 12:46, 11 December 2008 (EST)
Power Lecch would be simply awesome like that, however it won't be.--Altruismliger Liger414 talk 12:48, 11 December 2008 (EST)
It would be rediculously OP. --Frosty 12:54, 11 December 2008 (EST)
OMG, look at Wastrel's Collapse.....that has to be fake. That would be sickly OP. SurpriseKarate Jesus 13:14, 11 December 2008 (EST)
The crippled doesn't have a duration set to it, that's odd. Banaantje 13:16, 11 December 2008 (EST)
Almost all of it is OP. Lingering Curse is crazy....where the hell did you find that? SurpriseKarate Jesus 13:21, 11 December 2008 (EST)
...Find what, exactly? D: Banaantje 13:27, 11 December 2008 (EST)
The link above.--Altruismliger Liger414 talk 13:28, 11 December 2008 (EST)

(reset) I can tell this elite is going to become infamous, I run a prot monk and all I can say is QQ Byakko User Byakko Byakkopaw 14:36, 12 December 2008 (EST)

Ive been using that attack combo with BoS at the end for a while now, lose two crit +1 dagger +2 DA put in BoS+Impale = much stronger spike - Greatrabe 19:26, 12 December 2008 (EST)

Also equals loss of breakpoints and a slower spike. LifeAura of Faith 19:31, 12 December 2008 (EST)
Breakpoints? for what??? only thing lower is CS and if ur doin that ur not using any CS skills. Granted longer spike, but the damage increase is significant (over 100 for 1 second extra)
Now the question to ask here is this: does hex removal come first or prots? If prots are the first priority, then this build will own hard. If not, then gg. Prot monks, do you prot or hex remove first when you see a bar going down with a hex arrow? Benjammn311Icon Benjammn311 19:42, 12 December 2008 (EST)
do both-Greatrabe 19:47, 12 December 2008 (EST)
Breakpoint for energy is 13 CS. LifeAura of Faith 20:36, 12 December 2008 (EST)

This build has no defense against offensive defense such as blind and weakness but u say if it did it would "lose focus" so heres another problem, one thats easily countered, if cripple is removed flail not having a cancel stance becomes makes for easy kiting, if u get snared ur useless (no step, no remove, no IMS). One answer is dash, its a good cancel stance for flail, beats (many) snares and helps for rushing into the attack, still if cripple is removed mid combo theres a big problem - Greatrabe 22:30, 12 December 2008 (EST)

Blind is anti-melee, it owns everything. Flail lasts for 5 seconds, cancel isn't needed. Cripple is only needed for about 1 second, faster than pretty much any monk can react. LifeAura of Faith 22:38, 12 December 2008 (EST)
lol --IkimonoI know Paragons. Shut up and listenMonk-Paragon-icon 14:49, 9 January 2009 (EST)

Master of Healing

How fast does this kill it?--Relyk chtistmas2ChristmasRelyk 18:00, 21 December 2008 (EST)

I don't think it does...Lolfast hex removal =[ --The preceding srsly srs comment was added by Itokaru 18:11, 21 December 2008 (EST)

Frenzy shouldn't be in the variants. flurry doesn't require a cancel stance and on daggers reduces the damage just by 2-5 at most, nets almost the same spike damage, and gives much more survivability.--IkimonoI know Paragons. Shut up and listenMonk-Paragon-icon 14:48, 9 January 2009 (EST)

In HB, hero's aren't clever enough to damage you in frenzy so eve if its a loss of 2/3 damage oer attack there's no point in using it when frenzy is a better option. FrostrageFrosty po! 14:58, 9 January 2009 (EST)

Hero AI

In hero Battles, against hero monks with this, it is perfectly countered. however, against stance-monks etc..it works quite well.--IkimonoI know Paragons. Shut up and listenMonk-Paragon-icon 14:51, 9 January 2009 (EST)

Archive?

unless ias isnt very important--Relyk 20:32, 5 February 2009 (EST)

ye archive, without ias this is meh MuffinPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 20:46, 5 February 2009 (EST)
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