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was only a matter of tim until this was made.File:Signature1.png 17:54, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

YEP Aardappelsalade 18:31, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Already made and trashed. Drah McNinja 18:56, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
wrong drah. none hav ebeen made since update of both prism and aura. But not great by any means. just good — LukeJohnson LJ BS Sig 20:39, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Strong in RA Frostysig9000FrostytheAdmin 20:41, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
not great strong. only good strong — LukeJohnson LJ BS Sig 20:43, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Actually is amazingly quite good after the buff to aura.--IkimonoNeeds more ParagonMonk-Paragon-icon 22:20, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
no it isn't. Lyssa's is perect emanagement and allows more damage. the healign from this is also pointless. only benefit is 0 damage for 1/5 of time. but meh — LukeJohnson LJ BS Sig 22:23, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
And the fact if your ench is removed it is quickly back up and you still have e-manage with prism. Frostysig9000FrostytheAdmin 23:59, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Lol i made at update and it was trashed, your dumb lj--Relyk 00:09, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

voting.

ys it is.99% of those assacaster builds are 5-5 worthy, its spamable with that energy+health from estorage skills. saying it is inferior to lyssas aura is debatable, lysas aura is inturuptable/reremovaable also. its just swapping a little bit [2 atribute points] worth of damage for more defense. i can have my opinion on my vote.File:Signature1.png 00:28, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Votes aren't based on opinions, votes are based on facts. --☭Guild*talk* 00:29, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
5-5 is over rated Hydra 00:30, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Isnt as good as la caster but the heal is nice and u can kill other assacasters--Relyk 00:34, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
alo of things on pvx are opinion.all votes are opinions of the voter. ide rather trade a little damage for more defense/health on this kind of bar. it works, in fact it works great.File:Signature1.png 00:40, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
In my opinion then, a build that has Mending, Frenzy, and Headbutt is great. Sorry, you can't remove my vote when I 5-5-5 my Frenzied Mendbutter because it's an opinion. --☭Guild*talk* 00:44, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
theres a difference. thats just random and has no synergy. atleast my opinion makes sense,File:Signature1.png 00:50, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
one more thing that i jsut stumbled upon. from your userpage "Synergy = can these skills kill/help/heal this person, not "Wow! Frenzy and Mending!" "02:05, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Guild, you have lost your argument with Unreal. His points are valid, true, and based on trial; Having close to equal energy and a mild heal makes it versatile and strong. While your points are based on frenzy mending. All votes are based upon opinion; including if that opinion is based upon facts.--IkimonoNeeds more ParagonMonk-Paragon-icon 03:58, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
opinions on strategy is fact tbh stop being bad--Relyk 07:31, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Which is why i worded what i said that way. Reading ftw.--IkimonoNeeds more ParagonMonk-Paragon-icon 17:44, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

LA has stronger energy and higher damage output. This has a self-heal and anti-spike. Considering that you can drop Ether Feast on an LA bar, and the fact that this is for low-end PvP, doesn't it seem a bit obvous which is more viable? --Shazzydiddles 08:16, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

The anti-spike just means take only degen pressure for 3 seconds. the healing is basically nil in this build. The energy is the same as lyssa's essentially, but you lose ability to knocklock with palm and/or SoJ and have considerably less damage on spike and over time. it's good. not great. /end discussion — LukeJohnson LJ BS Sig 10:09, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

That command does not exist, please try again.--Relyk 07:21, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Vig Spirit is also a pointless heal, mirite? Just keep casting on shit while surviving better than Lyssa's and you'll profit. 128.255.195.88 08:14, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Does this need AoR

To have enough energy? because tbh, it should be dropped for IP if possible. coz heal is shit. and energy, well that's what i need to know. is EP enough? Exo Oo 17:29, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

AoR favors spells that cost 5 energy for optimal energy "gain" so probably. If you plan on spamming DD, then without AoR you're going to have a little trouble.--IkimonoNeeds more ParagonMonk-Paragon-icon 17:46, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
It keeps you from dieing from degen atl and you can always use iron palm instead--Relyk 10:01, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Regarding Lyssa's Aura

this build gives 19 energy every 10th second, meaning 1,9 energy/second. 1,9 energy/second is the same as roughly +6,3 energy regeneration. Lyssa's Aura on the other hand provides only +4 energy regeneration. And that is not counting in Aura of Restoration (which really should be put in optional slot) and the fact that Lyssa's Aura is easy to remove whereas Ether Prism isn't. The only real advantage LA sins have is that they are sin primary and can do more damage, but this can spam Deadly Daggers more on the other hand. Godbox 10:35, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

no Cute McMonkeyTab 10:35, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
ups. I failed math? D: Godbox 10:41, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
ether prism is gud tbh--Relyk 10:43, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
its got 15r tbh Cute McMonkeyTab 10:45, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
More damage using assacaster > less damage using assacaster tbh. Oh, and sins have higher AL normally. Exo Oo 11:08, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
stupid pvx says 10 seconds. Godbox 12:55, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK read my vote for why this isn't too good Exo Oo 17:12, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

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