Lol Bonder 1 has two elites. --Jimp WhiteAsIce 01:55, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Forgot to change BiP on the first bonder. That skill is empty on my bonder 1. I replace it with rebirth, but u can just left it empty. ATFH is took from the link I posted at usage (I just changed 1 skill) and cause I was lazy I just copy pasted it :p and I forgot to take the out the second elite. Thedukesd 02:05, March 3, 2010 (UTC)
why obby for atc?--Relyk talk 03:51, March 3, 2010 (UTC)
You are thinking to something like this

<pvxbig> [build prof=Elementalist/Assassin earth=12+1+3 shadow=11 ene=6+1][Shadow Form][Stoneflesh Aura][Armor of Earth][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor][Sliver Armor]["Finish Him"][Death's Charge][Mindbender][/build] </pvxbig>

If you try to get 12 at shadow you will have energy problems. With 11 at shadow arts shadow form last 20,4 (hope i did the maths right adding the 20% longer ench). Obby last 25,2s and you don't need to invest any point at shadow arts. I didn't had energy problems using obby(the energy diference between the build on the main page and the build above is 2; ((12+1)-(6+1))*3=6*3=18, the energy diference between obby and shadow form is 25-5=20). You gain 2 energy and you lose 4,8s from the protection against spells. The 2 energy gained doesn't count, you shouldn't have problems with the energy using the build on the main page.

Stoneflesh Aura, Armor of Earth, Ebon, Sliver can't be removed from the build in HM. Finish Him speed up the killing (not funny to die when Harvest is at 10% hp). Mindbender is there cause I had some problems caused by the fact that I was not casting fast enough the skills (one skill got intrerupted (Stoneflesh in one case Sliver in another) and I failed to kill (i died in both case before killing the target)). So you have only 2 skill left. Without shadow step it will take longer to get ot Harvest.

I prefer longer protection against spells cause I didn't had energy problems. Btw I didn't use survivor insignia on my ele I use geomancer (witch are kinda useless). If you have energy problems with the build on the main page change the survivor insignia with radiant, I think it will work too (not 100% sure but I don't really see way it shouldn't work).

While I was maxing out my titles in Eotn this build was changed only once, replacing Drunken Master with Mindbender (I was running drunk :D), and that cause it happened 2 times in a row to be intrerupted and I failed.

L.E.: Decreasing the points at earth magic is bad, armor of earth makes you move slower and it's a not good idea to move slower, also you will lose some damage power (minor lost but it can count).Thedukesd 06:22, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

I've been doing this for the last 3 days and it has been working really well once i got used to it, but in CotN deaths charge in place of frigid armor is a good idea - run with armor of mist and mindbender on, if you are r5 asuran,you will instantly break aggro. Just recast in a safe spot and run. Deaths charge after the second spawn to the bottom group for a faster run. Obsidian flesh worked fine, no energy problems, and you get the +20 armor (the -5 from shadow form would only count from shadow form as there are no other assassin enchantments on you) - no problems there, just cast obsidian and mindbender when you are in the middle of the charr fort - you should be fine.

Why don't you just do the "die and let heroes do the work" approach to Against The Charr? No spawns to avoid and nothing to fight except the boss. Dzjudz 00:41, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

^ this[[1]] is easier and it works beautifully. 18:24, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
Yes that is what I meant 141, thanks :) Dzjudz 18:28, April 13, 2010 (UTC)


is bad, there are spelling errors everywhere and its not at all clear.Howe304 11:23, May 9, 2010 (UTC)


dousnt work anymore after sliver armor nerf 15:22, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Also nerfed cus new spawns

mmm maybe kill warrior boss first and then necro boss, dunno if u can stay alive that long though--Relyk talk 08:53, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
problem is you can't kill anything quickly with the sliver armor update. I also vote on archiving this.-- 03:47, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah i spent a lot of time trying to get this to work, and it doesnt anymore. archive please 01:54, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

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