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Can I use this with Mesmer primary? It seems you have plenty of energy thanks to mantra... — Abedeus User Abedeus Sig 06:20, 29 October 2007 (CET)

I think you have to be ele primary so that you can keep Obsidian Flesh up 100% of the time. --Teh Uber Pwnzer 06:42, 29 October 2007 (CET)
If you don't have Obsidian up 100% of the time then your enchantments will be stripped in a matter of seconds Joshgt2Charge! Joshgt2 (Talk) 01:23, 29 December 2007 (EST)

This needs some clean-up, otherwise it's all good imo Edwina Elbert Edsig 20:07, 30 October 2007 (CET)

to awnser the question above. NEEDS ele primary. seccond: here is a vid link for thwe vid if you want to use it, its mine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2aRG1GTtz8 -TehBuG- (68.146.198.244 01:30, 31 October 2007 (CET))
Ima clean up the article my self a bit if you don't mind Edwina Elbert Edsig 09:55, 31 October 2007 (CET)

No, I don't mind, thanks for cleaning :D Ratys 15:20, 31 October 2007 (CET)

I am positively sure this work although this build was first posted on guildguru and are the...??Yizhuo2006 01:06, 1 November 2007 (CET)

Build:Team - Destroyer Core Farmers is faster. Complication is gud 4 u. :) --- Monk-icon-Ressmonkey Ressmonkey (talk) 01:57, 2 November 2007 (CET)

^ That's a dual farm, this thing is solo so its superior even if takes another 2 or so mins per run Edwina Elbert Edsig 08:41, 2 November 2007 (CET)
Not really since collectible drops scale along with everything else, so you only get a little more than the above build and an additional 2 minutes is a really long time. --- Monk-icon-Ressmonkey Ressmonkey (talk) 14:50, 3 November 2007 (CET)

Very Good Build, Kinda Slow, But Any Safe Farming Build is Really. Shame About Nerf To Glpyh of Swiftnes But No Biggy. Haven't Tried HM Varient Yet, But Have Been Usuing Something similar in Fissure of Woe, Replacing Sliver Armour With Ward of Stability. Think I Prefer The Warrior Version But Good Fun None The Less. (Air of Enchantment вℓυє ℓαgσσи 14:32, 22 November 2007 (CET))

the counter "Failure to maintain Obsidian Flesh due to enchantment removal." is rather confusing. it sounds like the build will fail when OF is stripped. which i supose is true, but how is OF getting stripped or anything else... Sephine 04:45, 5 December 2007 (CET)

The HM version works well, but if you lag at all while stoneflesh aura or OF are running out you can die quickly. I've also found that aura of restoration is not needed. Can someone confirm that you can put arcane echo back in the HM build in place of restoration? Alan Firehazard 15:10, 14 December 2007 (CET)

I just got EoTN and havent beaten it yet, but why not pump air to 3 with the left over points and have a minor rune? Then you can keep Obi and Sliver up, then echo Acid.--Hyprodimus Prime 05:10, 30 December 2007 (EST)

You only need the glyph for OF, and using acid is not necessary - with the rit weapon spell they cast on each other, you will die quickly, especially in hard mode. Incidentally, I've had no problem since my last message using arcane echo in place of restoration in HM. The only trouble you can have is with lag. Alan Firehazard 13:19, 30 December 2007 (EST)

Ok I see now. So sliver gets past VW because it only targets one guy.--Hyprodimus Prime 15:11, 30 December 2007 (EST)

Was this nerfed? i get interrupted when recasting the enchants :S

They gave some of the destroyers Chaos Storm which interrupts you when you cast spells..Sun 17:48, 2 March 2008 (EST)

Lol.Chaos storm drains energy it doesn't interupt and it shouldn't even be on you if you maintain Obbey.207.214.143.130 13:53, 18 April 2008 (EDT)
I haven't had any chaos storm ever cast at me in first wave hard mode, and the build still works a treat. Alan Firehazard 15:02, 16 April 2008 (EDT)

Baby dragon gets killed. Whats the problem??? 88.85.130.57 12:47, 5 March 2008 (EST) This farm sucks. 88.85.130.57 13:26, 5 March 2008 (EST)

Your problem could be not waiting for all the destroyers to gather. This takes 2.50 mins in hard mode, after which you move to the right group, the others will follow, then cast sliver. Alan Firehazard 15:02, 16 April 2008 (EDT)

Can this complete all the waves?The Golden Arrow 21:14, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

No, just the first. --MalaMalasigMagebane Shot 12:29, 30 March 2008 (EDT)
I seem to have a problem keeping them off the dragon, if I wait for them to mob up as recommended one of the groups always go for the remaining dwarves and ultimately the dragon. I can do nothing to prevent this as they seem to completely ignore my agro. :/ Any suggestions? 67.167.64.47 03:11, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

HM Variant

As mentioned some time ago, I've been using the HM variant with Arcane echo in place of aura of restoration to speed things up. Whatever rumours about nerfing, the build still works on the first wave in hard mode, tonight being the latest, so I changed it the page. Alan Firehazard 19:16, 24 April 2008 (EDT)

Yep, HM sure works. The problem is... it takes freaking forever till they die!!! Silver Armor is barely damaging them, plus you can't Arcane Echo it. That's why I rather just do it NM, but at least we know it's possible :/ --84.109.22.194 09:03, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
i tried in Hm and i take no damage but i have full geomancer and maintail all enchantments not letting any end and yet barrage still does 3 dmg to you, they dont use it heaps but if you let any skills slip for even .1 of a second ur dead

Still work?

Title says all. If it doesn't, why is it even on PvX anymore? 88.104.30.211 10:16, 31 October 2008 (EDT)

I farmed with that build only 2 days ago.PikaFanLightningbolt sig 10:24, 31 October 2008 (EDT)
What if Obsidian Flesh was replaced with Physical Resistance? 

Armor Bonus would be higher, no DMS, but there would be elemental weakness. I assume that would be covered by stone striker and mantra of earth.

New Video

This build may be forgotten but i still use it :P So i made a vid of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UCPJ3GFtNo&fmt=18 I'm new at this site so i didint know if i could add it or owner of the build have to :P - User:PiXeL5

Obsi Flesh change 02/25/2010

As far as I can tell, the change to Obsidian Flesh had no effect whatsoever on this build except that it's now easier to ball up the destroyers. Successfully ran it 6 times so far in HM. --GW-Talen 06:24, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

HM build works without problems. The updated didn't affected this build.
I also want to confirm this still works in HM I would say it even is a bit better now, instead of 10 minute runs I can do it on average under 8 minutes. Wynterarwynrose 12:07, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Vengeful Weapon

I'm having the same problem with both this and the E/Mo Variant - Sliver armour is triggering vengeful weapon making NM tricky and HM impossible. Anyone know why and how to get around it? Piggyboy 14:40, May 23, 2010 (UTC)

Just tested it and confirmed: vengeful weapon stops this build since the sliver nerf ('fix'). My guess: previously, sliver targeted one at a time, killing them so fast that they didn't have time to cast vengeful on the sliver target. Now, however, sliver targets randomly. After it hits one, they can cast vengeful on that target, then when sliver targets it again a while later vengeful hits you. I'm archiving this build, it's nerfed. Dzjudz 17:01, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
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