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Can even be done with a Mesmer primary. Too easy. Not that I'm complaining ;) 82.73.226.216 11:50, 20 March 2008 (EDT)

Why use Mantra of Earth and not Mantra of Frost? Don't the ice imps deal cold dmg? Natsopaani 11:14, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

You need the extra damage reduction on the way there. Or else you're dead. Avatar Kuzon 12:04, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

hi folks^^, i have only one question. when the imps cast maelstorm you just walk out of this ? the build sounds pretty good and easy but i'm not sure if i had understood the handling of this spell and the right reaction. maybe someone could give me a short explanation ? that would be nice ;-)- Haldir68 05:48, 18 April 2008 (EDT)

Obsidian Flesh prevents any spells being cast against you, assuming you cast it before reaching the imps they will be unable to cast Maelstrom or any other spell for that matter. Glyph of swiftness lets you keep up Obsidian Flesh as long as you like so be sure to use it before casting Obsidian Flesh. 70.48.204.128 12:22, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
thanks very much for the explanation ^^. there's nothin' else i can say ;-). - Haldir68 00:21, 21 April 2008 (EDT)
the cake is a lie... annyway why under variants there is Ward Of Stability? i mean.. isn't it the cripple you should be affraid of? where does the KD come from ?:s Close Impact talk 08:02, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

There are Tundra Giants that KD chain ur ass >< this run is mad fast and easy with the dervish build.. Adamezra 08:08, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

Mystic Regeneration took it up the ass, making the dervish run extremely hard. Avatar Kuzon 11:56, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
ooh raiiit.. E/D would have tricky e-menagement too:p.. i have to find something for those giants >.< Close Impact talk 12:32, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

Completed a Run[]

Nicely made guide, just completed my first run and works like a charm against the imps, you really don't have anything to worry about once you're in the cave. Running Past the guiles and boss can be a pain but other than that a job well done.--Read The Times 14:09, 14 April 2008 (EDT)


Just curious, on average how many cave clearings will you hafta do to get an IDS?Ravskau 21:40, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

I usually get 1-2 on HM each run, thats about 30k (15k each). NM on average, is like 1 IDS every 2 runs. My personal record was 4 in one run. :D Avatar Kuzon 21:57, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Hard Mode?[]

you say u r doing this on HM? Impossible! I tried many times, it's not even possible to run through 1st location

Either you are doing something wrong, or you just suck at it. It's simple to make it through the first area in HM. Avatar Kuzon 11:31, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

i'll try to catch u in game, we will talk then ^^

PM "Dragoon of Infinity" Avatar Kuzon 14:06, 9 May 2008 (EDT)
hello you folks ^^. this build is excellent for nm, but i don't see any possibility to get through the first location with the stone summits.it would be nice, if you could give any tips ;-), ty Haldir68 02:57, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
Lol, you should of taken ur offline status off. Anyways, replace "I Am Unstoppable!" with Kinetic Armor and just take the 5 or so knockdowns when u get to the Tundra Giant's. Hope that helped ^^. Avatar Kuzon 13:53, 28 May 2008 (EDT)
löl, i was offline cause of farming vaettirs an every single minute one of the guildies come along with a question or something else, so i couldn't get enough silence to to the run. my concentration takes a less, and so i went off ^^ sry ;-).
hope you understand. anyways, thanks a lot lot lot lot *löl* for the hint with kinetic armor, but i have still aproblem in the first part of the run ^^. the degeneration from the stone summits in hm is pretty heavy for bleeding and hex. how can i get past these guys without dyin' ? Haldir68 01:06, 29 May 2008 (EDT)


Why use Stone striker + Mantra of Earth when u can use mantra of Frost and Take a damgade skill? sryy for not login in and sign 90.227.214.40 05:49, 13 September 2008 (EDT)Zumar

Stone striker. That's why. Devil icon tai talk 14:27, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

Does anyone wanna make a map for the first area?[]

and be forever loved by me? Also, I can't seem to pull this off on HM (I would on NM, but I keep getting lost). The Stone Summit almost all hit in the 30ish range. I can generaly break the aggro, but I die of the degen. I've also took he advice on this talk page and replace "I am Unstoppable" with Kinectic Armor, and while it reduced the damage I took, I still died of degen afterwards. Help?Upside 09:55, 6 November 2008 (EST)

How are you supposed to deal with Avicara Guiles? They always strip my enchs then i die --WGreg

I have a problem at the very last boss group before the imps.I cant get by them with out dying and my char is set up exactly according to the guide. The Necro and Ele boss have killed me on both runs I made to the point of 60% dp.

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