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Discuss plox--SpikePlup SpikePlup Talk to me! 23:26, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

god...fucking damn it...i swear guild wars is 100% mesmers and necros now.--IkimonoNeeds more ParagonMonk-Paragon-icon 10:53, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Mes primary because....? Spaggage talk 20:46, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
I herd DF waz good. KJ needed a new sig....sig 20:48, 30 March 2009
mesmer primary for fast cast, divine favor wasnt used for the mo primary as its not necessary Terran 20:49, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Still, being able to rune up Healing and Smiting Prayers is good. And Major for 11 FC? Spaggage talk 20:52, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
This is much better for the higher ranked guilds were actually LoD and the smiter has a high-priority to be shutdowned :> Also the runes and such + df didnt mather anyways.(super much atleast:P) Massive Image-Massive Sig 20:57, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
so iz guud?--SpikePlup SpikePlup Subliminal Messages 01:17, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

FC

Should the FC be higher to make it cast faster? Also should Archane Echo be a variant, for double healz spamzzzzssss--SpikePlup SpikePlup Subliminal Messages 02:36, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

why is there a major rune?--Relyk 03:31, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Errrr. Mirror please? Exo Oo 17:09, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Maybe I don't know enough about GvG, but I'd say lose Bane Signet and take Smite Condition. --AngelusEverton 18:05, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

screw me. who put lose soh for smite condition? that's fucking stupid. but mirror would be good in there somewhere tbh. or judges. Exo Oo 18:10, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Maybe make SoH optional on mainbar, and put in as variants:SoH, Mirror of dis, or smite condition--SpikePlup SpikePlup Subliminal Messages 21:40, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
You realise SoH is the only reason this is ran pretty much? Rawrawr Dinosaur 21:43, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Zzz EC :<, that was like word for word what I was gonna put ;p. --Crowels[슴Mc슴]Mootles 21:45, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE CROW, GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE Rawrawr Dinosaur 21:47, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Judges

Is pretty much always used, rez sig instead of rez chant too. --Crowels[슴Mc슴]Mootles 21:41, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I was actually going to suggest something like restore life since it's cast would be close to 2 seconds.--IkimonoNeeds more ParagonMonk-Paragon-icon 23:16, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
lol irl. --Shazzydiddles 00:12, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Ok Mr. Funny man, lets think this thing out. Resurrection chant = 3.8 cast + Current HP + 27% energy (health can usually be assumed about 50% or a little more since you will be targeted while ressing.) Restore Life = 2.5 Cast + 53% health + 77% energy (this makes it a very very very effective skill for getting up casters and anyone who needs the energy.) And then finally another common hard rez Flesh of My Flesh = 2.5 Cast + +/-50% of current + >17%energy (this skill is extremely common as a rez.) The only thing that makes Restore life "un-favorable" is the touch range. Now, you were laughing about something?--IkimonoNeeds more ParagonMonk-Paragon-icon 01:31, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
so take out what for judges?--SpikePlup SpikePlup Subliminal Messages 00:40, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Sig of Rage or Vigourous. --Shazzydiddles 01:06, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Iki, you always add comments to the bottom of a section btw. Touch range means potentially taking the most highly-priority profession for 90% of teams straight up to the frontline to rez. Also, assume you're at close to full health when rezzing or your team is already fucked. Rez doesn't mean omgtrainthis guy; it means send one dshot this way pls. If Restore Life actually had any noticable pros, the case wouldn't be that no one runs it. --Shazzydiddles 01:51, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

bar is decent now. but screw me, look at the great build that has this bar in and at least use basically the same skills? Exo Oo 16:08, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Iki Restore Life is bad since it is touch range, so obvious. --Crowels[슴Mc슴]Mootles 21:11, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Vigorous Spirit?

Should I take vig spirit off the mainbar? It doesn't really add that much support but it is quite nice to have. Make it optional for different support options?--SpikePlup SpikePlup Subliminal Messages 02:27, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Change the bar to this [1] Drah McNinja 02:30, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
^ Imo its better to have smite hex than sig of rejuv or sig of rage. The other should just be optional for one sig or the other or vig spirit.--SpikePlup SpikePlup Subliminal Messages 02:35, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

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such stupidity infuriates me. this is exactly the same bar as the monk version. put mod as an optional in last slot and or pdrain. if you drop judge's then you have energy for vigorous and smite hex. --Readem 21:01, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

drop judge's? lol. if you do that, you might as well run the monk version. (iirc, mesmer is used to FC JI's shitty 2 second cast.) 128.255.216.144 21:31, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
FC for LoD. Frostysig9000FrostytheAdmin 21:43, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
FC works on all spells, ofc. This is a general game mechanic. 128.255.216.144 21:59, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
FC just for judge's is dumb because it is still stupidly easy to hit with FC. Frostysig9000FrostytheAdmin 22:00, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Might as well not run Judge's Insight then eh? Funny that it's meta nonetheless. Even [rawr] runs bad gimmicks sometimes, so any point you might have is probably moot. 128.255.216.144 22:08, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Judge's makes domages massive tbh, but you don't go FC to stop rupts soley on it because it will get rupted at like 10 fc anyway if they are looking for it, its more for the lol can't rupt my LoD and signets etc. (which on a monk are 1 sec cast aka easy rupts) Frostysig9000FrostytheAdmin 22:17, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Frosty beats anon 1-0 Exo Oo 13:12, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Even many top 100 rangers can't interrupt on a regular basis for shit, tbh. Was up against a rank 70+ guild who can't interrupt a JI casted in front of a ranger. Monk primary to boot, too.220.255.7.142 13:19, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
some guilds farm way up ladder with bspike etc... Exo Oo 14:07, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
lol 70 Frostysig9000FrostytheAdmin 14:12, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Just a side note. Misery and I guested in Pikas guild and destroyed a top 200 with this. Now, I've only played champ ranged guilds a handful of times, but this was epic. Guess who was the LoD mes? :> ~ Big Big sadface sig sysop 00:07, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Big, it was sO, and it was bought by someone else.220.255.7.169 05:02, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Oh dear Big. Frostysig9000FrostytheAdmin 11:02, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
its ok big, im sure you play LoD bitchrole skilfully enough to beat any guild! Cute McMonkeyTab 11:42, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Be nice tabbels.220.255.7.202 12:05, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
o^_^o¸«` Cute McMonkeyTab 12:14, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Kawaii desuuuu ne220.255.7.231 12:17, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Dum Nobleur Frostysig9000FrostytheAdmin 13:11, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
nou220.255.7.245 13:36, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
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