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Is it meta? ---Chaos is gay - 10:02, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Correct my mistakes please, and stfu about the name. ---Chaos is gay - 10:04, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
I dont think its meta, that said i've not played in some time. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 14:45, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Arcane Echo

I really don't like AE in these builds. I don't think a second copy of CoP is worth the 25 energy it would cost and everything recharges quick enough that you don't need to echo it. I'd rather just keep spamming necrosis for damage and use one of the optionals in AE's place. --Dfscott 15:44, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Fragility vs. Mind Wrack

Mind Wrack lasts three times as long as Fragility. I don't think the small amount of damage that Fragility offers is worth the shorter duration, especially if you're moving a lot (it sucks to try and drain it and get nothing).--Dfscott 16:13, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Conditions are more likely than spending that long killing a single foe. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 16:20, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
Also, Fragility is AoE. To adress the Echo comment above, I figured that echoing necrosis would be more damage, since the CoP damage doesn't stack because of degen. ---Chaos is gay - 16:41, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
Good points -- and it's not like you can't recast it if you need to switch targets. But regarding AE: Necrosis has a 2 second recharge -- is it really worth echoing? --Dfscott 17:01, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
Why not? You'll be casting necrosis every second if you echo it, that's double dps from it, ohai. ---Chaos is gay - 17:08, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
Well, with the top variant, you'd run out of energy in a hurry at 10 energy/sec. I haven't tried the LA version so I can't speak to that one.--Dfscott 20:01, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
Ah btw, I forgot about the dumb fact that much of echoing Necrosis is lost when MoR already reduces the recharge. ---Chaos is gay - 20:03, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
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