Is it meta? ---Chaos is gay - 10:02, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Correct my mistakes please, and stfu about the name. ---Chaos is gay - 10:04, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
I dont think its meta, that said i've not played in some time. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 14:45, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
"This user doesn't see the face in QQ"

Arcane Echo

I really don't like AE in these builds. I don't think a second copy of CoP is worth the 25 energy it would cost and everything recharges quick enough that you don't need to echo it. I'd rather just keep spamming necrosis for damage and use one of the optionals in AE's place. --Dfscott 15:44, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Fragility vs. Mind Wrack

Mind Wrack lasts three times as long as Fragility. I don't think the small amount of damage that Fragility offers is worth the shorter duration, especially if you're moving a lot (it sucks to try and drain it and get nothing).--Dfscott 16:13, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Conditions are more likely than spending that long killing a single foe. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 16:20, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
Also, Fragility is AoE. To adress the Echo comment above, I figured that echoing necrosis would be more damage, since the CoP damage doesn't stack because of degen. ---Chaos is gay - 16:41, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
Good points -- and it's not like you can't recast it if you need to switch targets. But regarding AE: Necrosis has a 2 second recharge -- is it really worth echoing? --Dfscott 17:01, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
Why not? You'll be casting necrosis every second if you echo it, that's double dps from it, ohai. ---Chaos is gay - 17:08, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
Well, with the top variant, you'd run out of energy in a hurry at 10 energy/sec. I haven't tried the LA version so I can't speak to that one.--Dfscott 20:01, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
Ah btw, I forgot about the dumb fact that much of echoing Necrosis is lost when MoR already reduces the recharge. ---Chaos is gay - 20:03, October 2, 2009 (UTC)


Am I wrong, or would intensity be an epic skill for this build?-- 05:04, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Oh nevermind, already 3 pve skills. Sorry-- 05:05, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
,... And ooh yeah, Intensity is an Elementalist skill! While this build already is Me/N,... /Fail. -- 21:06, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Man I miss..

The old MoR with 50% faster recharge. Zyke-Sig 02:21, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

'tis balanced ---Chaos- (talk) -- 17:17, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

I'm confused here...

I keep looking for something worthwhile, but when did it become good to spam armor-ignoring Flare on single targets while throwing a watered-down CoP around every now and then?Erring Ryft 23:16, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Ever since discordway became extremely popular, I think. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 23:59, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
Necrosis is about 1000 times better than flare (not dodgable, al ignoring, more damage etc etc). It's like 90 damage every other second... --Frosty Frostcharge 00:17, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
While flare is about 20. -- Drah 00:18, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
You'll notice I said "armor-ignoring Flare"...90 damage on a single target every other second is still 45ish DPS...which is still pretty darn sad, and nowhere near as effective as any of the other Mesmer builds (although I'll concede that I can see it being popular for Discord, but that frankly bores the crap out of me, and you'd need to mainbar a condition)Erring Ryft 06:54, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
/yawn. Being bad bored the crap out of me, tbh. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 21:48, 21 November 2009
(EC) Actually, its every second making it 90 DPS. -- Drah 21:48, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeah but aftercast/cast time adds up to about half that - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 21:51, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Flare is dodgeable, affected by armor, lower damage. Don't compare them to flare just because they are damage on recharge. That's like saying Mind Blast ele is no pressure because it's just like pumping Flare. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 22:52, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Actually, Mind Blast has a purpose beyond its's fuel for better skills. Necrosis is just something to do when you can't do anything more doesn't seem like something worth building a bar around.Erring Ryft 23:55, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
I don't think we're going to be able to explain the efficiency of Necrosis without you experiencing it. Go try it. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 10:31, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
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