Used this build in Ha when i meet dam powerblockers all the time so this came out Fish 00:21, 16 August 2007 (CEST)
- I aint playing with no 12 points in healing prayers. Asdfg 00:26, 16 August 2007 (CEST)
- Fast response, might be true but i think it's worth it due to it can help in almost every defensive situation
- Drop Divine Favor. Asdfg 00:45, 16 August 2007 (CEST)
- Not readdy to drop it, it's what makes monk efficent healers, nmot worth the 5-10 more health for every member
- Drop Divine Favor. Asdfg 00:45, 16 August 2007 (CEST)
- Fast response, might be true but i think it's worth it due to it can help in almost every defensive situation
Work on your punctuaion please... there's ONE period in the entire build... and it's automatically put in on the build format. BTW, no 12 healing prayers = phail. drop prot, i usually run 12 heal 9 divine 8 prot 5 inspiration.—
Cheese Slaya (Talk) 07:46, 16 August 2007 (CEST)
- Please sign your comments with four ~'s (~~~~). Thank you. —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ〚₮/ḉ/Д〛 08:30, 16 August 2007 (CEST)
Fixing formating and such, made this build to late at night for my headFish 09:46, 16 August 2007 (CEST)
Fixed formatting and readjusted the attributes, write here if you want it more improved Fish 10:03, 16 August 2007 (CEST)
You dont take SB and Infuse on the same bar. SB goes on the main prot, Infuse on the LoD. Its near pointless carrying 2 copies. 
Rawrawr Dinosaur 17:24, 16 August 2007 (CEST)
This can be used along side a protective monk wich uses protective spirit wich is best on the main protect monk due to the enchantment time, while spirit bond is always 10 seconds long. And what if you don't got any rez left and you are the only monk left alive, then this has a big benefit. You ussual don't need more healing spells then dwaynas kiss and LoD. RoF is far supporior then OoH, WoC. Healing touch is an option for self heal, but the devine favour is maybe to low for it to be efficent. Fish 21:19, 16 August 2007 (CEST)
- Yes. And when you face a spike, you will lose. You since you need to infuse and spirit bond then at the same time. G Fucking G. Unexist 11:28, 17 August 2007 (CEST)
- Spiritbond is often enough to prevent the spike, and if the other monk did protect spirit wich it does if he/she is good, the target is unkillable untill the enchantments is removed. At least if attacks does more then 60dmg wich it indeed does Fish 11:51, 17 August 2007 (CEST)
- um maybe in ta spirit bond is all you need against maybe ritspike. sb and prot spir aint enough.Dark0805|Rant 17:02, 17 August 2007 (CEST)
- Seriously, this will get tiny ratings with SB and Infuse on the same bar. There is a reason the Infuser always carries PS and SB is on the other monk.
Rawrawr Dinosaur 19:02, 17 August 2007 (CEST)
- Seriously, this will get tiny ratings with SB and Infuse on the same bar. There is a reason the Infuser always carries PS and SB is on the other monk.
- um maybe in ta spirit bond is all you need against maybe ritspike. sb and prot spir aint enough.Dark0805|Rant 17:02, 17 August 2007 (CEST)
- Spiritbond is often enough to prevent the spike, and if the other monk did protect spirit wich it does if he/she is good, the target is unkillable untill the enchantments is removed. At least if attacks does more then 60dmg wich it indeed does Fish 11:51, 17 August 2007 (CEST)
Umm I got here with two (improper) redirects from the Main Page.. someone could fix it? 
cKowDont 22:19, 30 August 2007 (CEST)
bar clean up
ok, i cleaned up the bar and added a three monk varient, both bars i got from an r9 along with how to use them. so dont revert them! Alpha fireborn 19:40, 17 August 2007 (CEST)
- It says if you run one with sor or sod monk. If you run a SoR monk you generally phail tbh. Also, not all dual monk backlines run an RC (I think SoD is more common) so I think you should mention that.
Rawrawr Dinosaur 20:34, 17 August 2007 (CEST)
Hope you don't mind, I fixed some of the grammer and punctuation errors. Looks nicer now. Great build btw.--
Victoryisyours 17:39, 21 August 2007 (CEST)
This bar is not right at all. This is just a GvG Monk bar with Channeling instead of Return. All good Monks run Orison for spammability with Channeling and not having to invest in 4 attributes, and Healing Seed for Altar maps. Prot is not supposed to be on an LoD bar in HA, even in a 2-Monk backline. Go observe any match in Halls and you'll see what I mean. Radiant 21:11, 30 August 2007 (CEST)
I've never seen any monk in the top guilds run Orison for anything, HA or otherwise. RoF will outdo it with very little investment in prot prayers. --Hikari 00:04, 31 August 2007 (CEST)
- Then you probably need to observe some more. It would be nice if there were seperate articles for the HA and GvG LoD/Infuse because both are completely different. Radiant 15:22, 31 August 2007 (CEST)
People run Orison, because there is nothing better, and they are running all heal/divine. Why do you think I dislike HA shenanigans :/ Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:06, 31 August 2007 (CEST)
Orison is terrible. One p-block and you're useless. Healing Seed is nice, but SoA is better, and chances are the prot monk will have it. If the prot monk is dead and there's a warrior training on you, Orison won't do anything. Tycn 15:26, 31 August 2007 (CEST)
Stop saying this and read the name of this build. It's the HA LoD/Infuser, not the GvG LoD/Infuser. I don't care what people run in GvG, but the fact is that every good Monk in HA runs Orison and no Prot. Power Block is not really popular in HA anyway, it's mostly PD.
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Radiant 15:34, 31 August 2007 (CEST)
I still stand by my opinion that a LoD should have prot unless you have 2 prot monks, and even then only if they're extremely experienced. Plenty of spikes are hard to deal with if you only have SB or only have Prot Spirt. And with that bar, you don't have anything for after infuse, while RoF allows you to deliver more healing/damage mitigation without risking the target dying. Tycn 15:46, 31 August 2007 (CEST)
- Quite. I run prot on my HA LoD builds. —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ〚ŞƳŞŌƤ〛 15:47, 31 August 2007 (CEST)
- I have had this argument with Auron, and unless you are running a random imba LoD Arcane SB, then run damn RoF :P. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 22:57, 31 August 2007 (CEST)
- You can say whatever you want, but my 2 years of HA experience and generally high amount of fame say otherwise. All good Monks run Orison and Seed. Radiant 23:36, 31 August 2007 (CEST)
- RoF>Orison. GvG>HA. That's how people roll. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 23:38, 31 August 2007 (CEST)
- You can say whatever you want, but my 2 years of HA experience and generally high amount of fame say otherwise. All good Monks run Orison and Seed. Radiant 23:36, 31 August 2007 (CEST)
- Fine. Keep RoF, but drop Prot Spirit. It just doesn't make any sense not to have Seed. Also, wtb seperate GvG article? Radiant 23:40, 31 August 2007 (CEST)
- We have like 4 :/. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 23:53, 31 August 2007 (CEST)
- Fine. Keep RoF, but drop Prot Spirit. It just doesn't make any sense not to have Seed. Also, wtb seperate GvG article? Radiant 23:40, 31 August 2007 (CEST)
- You seem to be predicating your argument on the assumption that there are good monks in HA, Radiant. This is not advisable. Also, Orison is a horrible skill. RoF is better. I'd run RoF at 0 prot before I ran orison at any healing. Speaking of which, Orison outclasses Orison at 14 with as little as 5 prot. It's also a better skill than orison at any attributes. Also, Healing Seed? Did people start running life bonders and two healing monks in HA again? --Edru viransu//QQ about me/sysop 00:04, 1 September 2007 (CEST)
