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:I'll make it an optional. <font face="Century Gothic"> <font color="darkred" size="2"> -</font> [[Image:Tai_MS.jpg|19px]] [[User:Star_of_Exile|<font color="darkred" size="1">'''STAR'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Tai|<font color="darkblue" size="1">'''OF'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Star_of_Exile|<font color="darkred" size="1">'''EXILE'''</font>]]</font> 16:47, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:Preturn @ 0 can be usefull if you use it well, tbh. Interupting the fuck out of fire ele's or dom mesmers is an perfect example, as their e-mangment doesn't matter. [[User:Unexist|<font color="green">—ǘŋ</font>]][[User talk:Unexist|<font color="black">Ɛxɩsƫ</font>]] 06:38, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:Preturn @ 0 can be usefull if you use it well, tbh. Interupting the fuck out of fire ele's or dom mesmers is an perfect example, as their e-mangment doesn't matter. [[User:Unexist|<font color="green">—ǘŋ</font>]][[User talk:Unexist|<font color="black">Ɛxɩsƫ</font>]] 06:38, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
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::It's PvE.... they have infinite fucking energy anyway, who cares if they get infinite + 10? - [[User:Misery|<small><font color="blue">Misery</font>]] Is [[User talk:Misery|<font color="blue">Friendly</font>]] </small>[[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 06:39, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
   
 
== Smiter's boon and all that ==
 
== Smiter's boon and all that ==

Revision as of 10:39, 14 October 2008

discuss go - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 11:58, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

If only you could use Divine Boon. Otherwise, Smiting is lackluster without Divine Favor. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 12:39, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
I could change it to Mo/Me I guess, easy enough - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 12:43, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
Reversal of Damage too!!! Godbox GodlyCompanion-cube 12:44, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
are you being serious? (I'm not great at understanding sarcasm when it's typed) - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 12:45, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
RoD is amazing. Rawrawr Dinosaur 12:47, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
Yeah. --DervsigAngelus 12:47, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
Variants or main bar? and should I move this to Mo/Me? - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 12:48, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
RoD should be on every Smiter bar. And Mo/Me probably. Just make attribs Inspiration 11, Smiting 11+1+1, Divine 8+1. Smiter's aren't really good with Divine Favor. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 12:49, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
Done. Should I stick in Divine Boon somewhere or is that overkill - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 12:52, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
I'd drop Zealot's and SoH for Divine Boon. You'll have pretty tough energy otherwise. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 12:54, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
Cool - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 12:57, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

I don't know too much about GvG and meta or whatever, but why is Power Return in this build? --DervsigAngelus 13:13, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

Primarily to keep up Lyssa's Aura, secondly as a very spammable interrupt. - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 13:15, 11 October 2008 (EDT)


Lyssa's aura makes itself uncoverable. It sucks in GvG/HA/TA. Might be half decent for RA/AB/CM, but there you wouldn't ever want to run a smiter. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 13:20, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

Hmm, that's a point. Thing is - you can cancel Divine Boon and still do decent party support (smite hex/condi/RoD), which isn't too heavy on energy, until you can get LA back up again. - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 13:22, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
Nice, and you can use smiter's boon for pve aswell. =] --Mr.Onion 13:51, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
THIS IS TRUE! - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 14:09, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

Testing?

Y/N? - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 16:13, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

More DF imo --FrostyMini england 11:14, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
Alright, changed to 11, 10(+1+1), 10(+1) - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 11:19, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
Anything else anyone would suggest before moving to testing? - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 11:22, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
Tbh, I wouldn't suggest using this outside of PvE and maybe for Heroes because you're basically trying to create an Eliteless PvP Smiter (because Divine Boon+Lyssa's Aura=Smiter's Boon before the nerf). In PvE, you can use both Smiter's Boon and Divine Boon, though, so it should be pretty great there. ــмıкεнaшк 11:27, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
Isn't there a smiting skill you could use instead of Power Return? Noemi 12:41, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
Not that a) is spammable or b) targets a foe, no. and should i take off the PvP tags then? - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 13:09, 12 October 2008 (EDT)


for reference...

If you're playing this in PvE, with Smiter's Boon, here's how it would go:

  • Divine favor = 11
  • 11 * 3.2 = 35.2, rounds to 35.
  • double that from Smiter's boon = 70.
  • Add bonus from Divine Boon: 70 + 48 = 118.

So you're healing an ally for 118 WHILE doing damage to foes at the same time. Pretty solid. - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 13:15, 12 October 2008 (EDT)


testing

Moved from trial. rate gogo. - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 13:52, 12 October 2008 (EDT)

Grr i'll edit the tags for PvP, i guess it can be used in both - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 15:07, 12 October 2008 (EDT)

WW

Put Wastrels in the main bar, Power Return at 0 FC does more damage than good. -StarSeeker | My talk 16:37, 12 October 2008 (EDT)

I'll make it an optional. - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 16:47, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
Preturn @ 0 can be usefull if you use it well, tbh. Interupting the fuck out of fire ele's or dom mesmers is an perfect example, as their e-mangment doesn't matter. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 06:38, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
It's PvE.... they have infinite fucking energy anyway, who cares if they get infinite + 10? - Misery Is Friendly Misery Dog obaby 06:39, 14 October 2008 (EDT)

Smiter's boon and all that

Yes, as you say, just putting Smiter's boon works. But why not add Divine Boon while you at it and get an extra 48hp of healing power with every spell? it turns it's healing from meh to pretty good. - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 17:49, 12 October 2008 (EDT)

What? ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   17:52, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
People are saying in the ratings "just use smiter's boon," I'm saying why not use both. - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 18:40, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
What?--ShadowRelyk Sig 19:58, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
In PvE, you're supposed to take Smiter's Boon AND Divine Boon with this build. XD ــмıкεнaшк 20:22, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
Finally, someone gets it. - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 05:14, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

PvP Tags

Yes or no? It seems there's some argument, and this build IS very solid in PvE, just not quite as good in PvP. It's still very useable in pvp tho. - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 06:36, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

Not really. Smiting sucks in RA/AB, and as for GvG and TA, let's just say there are much better choices. Keep it to PvE imo. Also, it's rather disconcerting that this build is receiving more attention than mine... Noemi 11:16, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

Ok, took off the PvP tags, they're gonna stay off. - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 12:20, 13 October 2008 (EDT)