-_- every1's making replicas of ea other, u know what im done making new update builds, no1 even checks if it has been submitted yet or not MuffinPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 00:45, 12 December 2008 (EST)

Lingering Curse > HA. --Frosty 09:09, 12 December 2008 (EST)

Screams for Suffering. and yea, this needs to be for HA.--IkimonoI know my ParagonsParagon-icon-small 09:38, 12 December 2008 (EST)
This and Soul Bind looks hawt :> , to bad P&H is buffed, oops i hate hexways yey Massive Image-Massive Sig 10:20, 12 December 2008 (EST)

Lol muffin, i just decided to screw everyone else and make all the obvious ones.--Relyk chtistmas2ChristmasRelyk 11:01, 12 December 2008 (EST)

D:, these new udpate buidls are too easy to make, just copy and paste then add new elite lol. We need to think up completely unique builds based on these new elites :D MuffinPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 11:37, 12 December 2008 (EST)

What's so good about this new Lingering Curse? [[User:Kurt|<font color="red">Kurt</font>]] 10:42, 13 December 2008 (EST)

AoE degen + -33% healing = fuckton of Hexpressure. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 10:41, 13 December 2008 (EST)

Even though its better for HA and GVG, it also dominates in RA and TA. It should be added for both. You can keep it on all 4 opponents the entire duration of the game in RA and TA, my monk has been getting dominated by this build.(Timcago 17:49, 13 December 2008 (EST))

Forgot to add FF/PS to variants? --Chaos Messenger 14:38, 18 December 2008 (EST)

what GoD said --—Daɽkɘʃʂ ӍcÇɧɽiʂtmaʂmonǥɘɼ Drk Chs Ball. 17:49, 21 December 2008 (EST)

Delete this, it's lolwut inferior to me/n —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 04:27, 30 December 2008 (EST)

Still used in tombz. Rawrawr Dinosaur 23:15, 31 December 2008 (EST)
You wouldnt use wards, mh, or soc?--Relyk chtistmas2ChristmasRelyk 00:05, 3 January 2009 (EST)

Why isn't this tagged for RA/TA? I use Lingering there and its beastly. Puebert 18:55, 7 January 2009 (EST)

arenas bar. ..LJ.. 04:46, 13 February 2009 (EST)

Different Area

Maybe add HA to the recommendated area thing(lol) at the top. HA is a great place for LC, and only a 1337 n00b wouldnt kno that. U should put a variant of the HA version with a grasping+rend+WaF. Kurzick FTW 00:28, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Lol. Spaggage talk 08:50, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Yea, HA's LC build is pretty fixed so there was no point having it in this build. Frostysig9000FrostytheAdmin 09:42, 4 May 2009 (UTC)


yea... Funkopotomis 01:12, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

LC is still amazing powerful (infact, OP!) Frostysig9000FrostytheAdmin 01:14, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Couldn't agree with You moar, Frosty. WoH and PnH combined cannot cope (especially in 4v4 Arenas)! --BlazingBurdy 04:52, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
It's still really potent. If the degen was removed it would probably be balanced then.--Ikimono"a rabid grizzly bear"Monk-Paragon-icon 05:52, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
that would NOT be balanced. 16:45, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
i ran into LC alot whenever i went into korean RA. i could deal with it on standard WoH and well...with the nerfs to it i figure my job is just abit easier i suppose Funkopotomis 14:47, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

No RA Tag..

Why? I see it almost all the time there on every necro bar & it wtfpwns still. --BlazingBurdy 22:19, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

vocal minority

obs mode.UnrealSignature1 15:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Jade Quarry has a version too

I've run something similar to this several times in JQ and it can get pretty sick. With Well of Suffering and Well of Silence swapped in at 11 death magic you can pump out 9 unstripable degen. Add in the six you already get from Lingering and Suffering for a total 15 and the shrines are recapped before your skills recharge.

The nice thing is that you pretty much guaranty that whatever shrine you focus on will get all the degen. Lingering forces monks to focus heal the quarry NPCs. One of them will die = cast WoSilence. Then another pops = cast WoSuffering. The heals tend to crumble shortly after, even PnH and WoH monks if they overspammed at the start (they will; its JQ).

Once you take it, you pretty much own it. Even if a capper comes along and there is nothing to heal your NPCs, you just recast your wells as the NPCs fall and boom; 9 degen out the gate. you might get off Suffering or another lingering before they kill you if you are camping behind the Quarry (and you may have to hide behind the NPCs if you are alone).


Glyph mainbar, make this GvG only (not sure if it's still seeing use in TA?). --Frosty Mc Admin 22:10, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah GOLE must be main bar, and TA is not good anymore IMO. GvG and HA it still is pretty decent though.I heal if you shut it 20:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
People use LC in HA? ··· Danny-sig 20:08, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
It's still powerful as f***. Just gotta have e-management and know-how on casting it (i.e.:on bunched up idiots and not lone targets). BlazingBurdy 04:33, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
I don't see it used elsewhere. ---Chaos- 06:45, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
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