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May need some work, but people still use it. KJ badge sig 20:25, 30 July 2009

I'm thinking this may need IP mainbar'd (because of omglifesteal), but that's a fuck-ton of energy. Maybe if it was something more offensive like:
Spoil Victor Insidious Parasite Faintheartedness Defile Defenses Rip Enchantment Signet of Lost Souls Optional Resurrection Signet
But again....that's a fuck-ton of energy and you lose FF+PS. KJ badge sig 20:37, 30 July 2009
Looks fun, I like the idea of IP also with similar interests, I'll test it out cus im board.--99.8.36.207 01:11, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Why the spear again? I'm confused.. ps; I'm the same nubbin as the IP adress above--Rella 01:23, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Why not just bring Angorodon's Gaze you have foul feastDr Rawr 01:36, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Makes sense but if there's 3 conditions plague sending is worf' it.--Rella 01:50, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Gaze then plague send its only 1 energy ok i should read more often. 10 energy to transfer 3 condition 6 energy gained from foul feast agorodons gives 11 and 5 for its cost and plage sending is 1 energy so i think you would gain 1 energy!Dr Rawr 01:52, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh...my....mother....fucking.....God. Can I get some feedback from people that actually understand build mechanics? KJ badge sig 15:11, 31 July 2009
If you are going to bring Insidious Parasite you need to remove the TA tag because there is no reason to bring a necro if you don't have foul feast. Drahgal Meir 16:42, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Actually idk why you have signet of lost souls over FF on the other variant. FF can act as your energy management. Drahgal Meir 16:45, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
I'll ignore Jesus' obviously butthurt post and say; FF is not a reliable source of e-management.--Rella 18:13, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
FF's bonus is the egain, but its main use is cleansing ur teammates' conditions for a small energy cost, so it's amazing MuffinPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 18:16, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
FF is fine. Btw, we're supposed to be discussing whether or not this should remain unarchived. If this is considered bad, then it needs to be re-archived. If not, then it needs to be vetted. Stay on topic. Oh, and Rella...shut the fuck up. KJ badge sig 20:51, 1 August 2009

Curses +13-14 (remember to factor in weakness) and ff/plaque. I don't think SV needs so high a damage for it to be effective. Otherwise, a fast cast mesmer variant of this would suffice and be just as effective tbh. Also, mainbar Parasitic Bond as a stronger cover hex vs Defile. --BlazingBurdy 12:25, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Defile is a lot better than PBond since it's a cover and it can actually do something decent. --Frosty Mc Admin 13:56, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
^ I agree. Defile can rape faces as a cover....PBond can heal, but you should have someone doing that already. KJ badge sig 14:10, 3 August 2009
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