Just an idea I had --19pxAngelus(mcpiplup) 11:55, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

Needs an IMS. The normal Soldier's bar has some para skill that I forget the name of for it. --Tab MooTab Piplup 11:57, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
Added Rush --19pxAngelus(mcpiplup) 11:59, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
"Lead the Way!" --Tab MooTab Piplup 12:00, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
Also acts as a shout so that you have 100% uptime on Soldier's Fury. Just realised you only have 66%. --Tab MooTab Piplup 12:05, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
Hows that look? --19pxAngelus(mcpiplup) 12:04, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
You don't need Enduring, Lead the Way has a duration cap of 20 seconds, you only need 3 other people with you to hit that cap. Remedy Sig isn't that great either, but it's ok seeing as this is for RA/AB. Take Bstrike over Enduring. --Tab MooTab Piplup 12:05, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
Bad. Don't take Enduring Harmony if you're not running FGJ. Waste of skill slots --Many srs beans Srs Beans R Srs 12:05, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
Made adjustments. --19pxAngelus(mcpiplup) 12:21, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
Spear Swipe is better than agonizing chop--Relyk IkeR e l y k 03:56, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
Spear Swipe would require quick weapon swapping since it's a spear attack, but could be done I guess. At 10e it's a bit expensive though.--TheHunger 11:16, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
Your a paragon, nothing is expensive.--Relyk IkeR e l y k 23:04, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
I disagree, this bar doesn't use GftE or any spammable adrenal shout. But I'm probably missing something. Puebert 19:33, 20 August 2008 (EDT)
Umm, isnt spear swipe a spear attack,???
LOL WHATS WEAPON SETS? --FrostyMini england 11:41, 19 September 2008 (EDT)
maybe rush for lead the way? XiV 11:42, 19 September 2008 (EDT)
Read Soldier's Fury needs. --FrostyMini england 11:57, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

DB crash

Sucks, made this vettable. --FrostyMini england 11:57, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

energy management

the energy is really tight in 4-man pvp...maybe delete the ra; ta tag. Illoyon 15:25, 21 September 2008 (EDT)

Using GftE! on recharge I've never had issues with energy with these builds. - Misery Is Friendly Misery Dog obaby 15:27, 21 September 2008 (EDT)
^ I've neither. Just be a little more careful with spamming Swipe if you're having trouble. --Many srs beans Srs Beans R Srs 15:37, 21 September 2008 (EDT)

I suck at editing wiki's. However. please note that using GftE before Dismember is NOT VIABLE. Dismember is adrenaline based, so is GftE.

your point is...?--IkimonoNeeds more ParagonMonk-Paragon-icon 16:43, 17 February 2009 (EST)
excellent observation and contribution, sir --Tai Sig 16:42, 17 February 2009
Ikimono, EC's go after the conflicting comment. He means you can't use GtfE and have it trigger on dismember. --Tai Sig 16:44, 17 February 2009
I know that...i was wanting to comment to his comment so i indented further so the conversation order could be followed. And GFTE is really only for energy; making a point about it cant be used with dismember is pretty /facepalm obvious.--IkimonoNeeds more ParagonMonk-Paragon-icon 16:50, 17 February 2009 (EST)
If you read what he said properly, you would realize that in the build's usage it says to spike with GtfE > Dismember, which he is saying is erroneous (yes, erroneous) --Tai Sig 16:52, 17 February 2009
ok, i havent reviewed this build in a month or so. yea, shame on the writer of this build then >:V --IkimonoNeeds more ParagonMonk-Paragon-icon 16:54, 17 February 2009 (EST)

Executioner's Strike

Honestly? Take Agonizing out for Executioner's. Even if it's pressure, it needs SOME spike at least.--Xamoro 16:57, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

who needs spiking when you can make a monk cry.--IkimonoNeeds more ParagonMonk-Paragon-icon 12:31, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


Most complain about PR which got nerfed hard so... Anfunny Likes Boys err... Girls. 12:18, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah see Frosty's 1-1, which should definately be removed now PRage no longer exists. Having an IMS and an IAS is a big advantage that most wars don't have, and imo makes up for lack of dmg and suchlike. Either way it's a big enough advantage for it to be better than 1-1. 22:01, 21 May 2009 (UTC)


"Use "Go for the Eyes!" before Dismember to have a powerful axe hit with Deep Wound." = Impossible, since they are both adrenaline skills Nytemyre 10:28, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

fixed for author.--IkimonoNeeds more ParagonMonk-Paragon-icon 12:32, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


PvP update to "Help Me!" could be worked into this with good effect. Just needs rush in there to complete it.--Ikimono"a rabid grizzly bear"Monk-Paragon-icon 12:59, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

<pvxbig> [build prof=Paragon/Warrior Leadership=8+1+1 AxeMastery=12 command=10+1][Dismember][Agonizing Chop][Disrupting Chop][Spear Swipe][Rush]["Help Me!"][Soldier's Fury][Resurrection Signet][/build] </pvxbig>

Self Heal, less taxing on energy, maintainable shout, make it so your monk/FF cant be interrupted (or at least harder)--Ikimono"a rabid grizzly bear"Monk-Paragon-icon 13:02, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Dah wait...almost maintainable.--Ikimono"a rabid grizzly bear"Monk-Paragon-icon 13:03, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
PvP version still has 15 second recharge... --Frosty Mc Admin 14:13, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Shoot, you're right. Had the developer notes up and got the two switched.Ikimono"a rabid grizzly bear"Monk-Paragon-icon 18:32, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
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