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Is it really that useful in HB in it's current form? There is no deep wound. I assume you want the player to run this and players tend to be the prime source of damage and usually the only deep wound. I think the HB version would look quite different. - {{User:Misery/sig2 subst}} 11:12, 12 June 2008 (EDT) |
Is it really that useful in HB in it's current form? There is no deep wound. I assume you want the player to run this and players tend to be the prime source of damage and usually the only deep wound. I think the HB version would look quite different. - {{User:Misery/sig2 subst}} 11:12, 12 June 2008 (EDT) |
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Revision as of 15:15, 12 June 2008
The infamous Dagger Ranger gets used in GvG, a twist in the plot? /FrosTalk\ 10:50, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- Dagger rangers = you lost the game. Rupert=Hawt
14:51{GMT}9-06-MMVIII
- Not quite. --
Tab Moo 12:15, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- Not quite. --
Impale can be dropped for res sig. — Skakid 11:26, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- Doesn't count Tab, you used Dshot too, that's a ranger with a bow and I would argue it was really Dshot that killed me. Although, you couldn't do it with a BA ranger, does that make rangersins superior to BA rangers? - Misery Is HawtFile:Grumpy bear.JPG 12:17, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- No, but it doesn't mean Rangersins are auto-lose. /FrosTalk\ 12:19, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- Ups, iirc I still beat your VoD build at VoD with a BA. --Tab Moo 12:19, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- Ups, that's because I'm baed. - Misery Is HawtFile:Grumpy bear.JPG 12:24, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- ^. We should 1v1 more often. --
Tab Moo 12:24, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- Because 1v1 is the highest form of PvE... --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 12:26, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- Actually, because I enjoy beating him with bad bars :> --Tab Moo 12:28, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- Am I right to have an impression that whole guild wars now relyes on soh mesmers? --Tiger grrr!! 13:44, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- If you obsed the game that you ripped this from (nub gladiators)you would probably notice that the r/a got d shot so much and he almost never got an entire combo off. I remember thinking jesus he is totaly shutdown the entire match, this is why you run warriors.I Heal If U Shutup 14:54, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- Just because [Glad] ran it doesn't mean it's fucking great. I agree with I Heal. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 15:54, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- WOW YOU AGREE THAT AN ASSASSIN COUNTER COUNTERS ASSASSIN CHAINS? FUCK YOURE ALL SO FUCKING DUMB — Skakid 15:59, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- Fact: Some PvX contributors will rate some builds down very low until they actually see a exp guild running it. This is proof on how retarted the community can be here. -From InfestedHydralisk. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 16:01, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- Fact: Shut the fuck up. — Skakid 16:02, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- Fact:no u. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 16:03, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- Fact:GoD is right. This community gargles the balls of high ranked guilds in their mouth. 75.34.40.10 16:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- They do. However, he's wrong to say that this is a completely useless trash build. --Tab Moo 16:50, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- They do. However, he's wrong to say that this is a completely useless trash build. --
- Fact: Shut the fuck up. — Skakid 16:02, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- Fact: Some PvX contributors will rate some builds down very low until they actually see a exp guild running it. This is proof on how retarted the community can be here. -From InfestedHydralisk. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 16:01, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- If you obsed the game that you ripped this from (nub gladiators)you would probably notice that the r/a got d shot so much and he almost never got an entire combo off. I remember thinking jesus he is totaly shutdown the entire match, this is why you run warriors.I Heal If U Shutup 14:54, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- Am I right to have an impression that whole guild wars now relyes on soh mesmers? --Tiger grrr!!
- Actually, because I enjoy beating him with bad bars :> --
- Because 1v1 is the highest form of PvE... --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 12:26, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- ^. We should 1v1 more often. --
- Ups, that's because I'm baed. - Misery Is HawtFile:Grumpy bear.JPG 12:24, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- Doesn't count Tab, you used Dshot too, that's a ranger with a bow and I would argue it was really Dshot that killed me. Although, you couldn't do it with a BA ranger, does that make rangersins superior to BA rangers? - Misery Is HawtFile:Grumpy bear.JPG 12:17, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
Clearing some things up
There's been a fair bit of badness here. This build is not great, but it's not worthy of 0-0-0s and 1-1-1s either.
- It's been said that Leaping Mantis and Dash is not a reliable snare. This is not true, saying that is like saying Bull's Strike is terrible because you're never going to land it. It just requires that you occasionally stop intently watching your skill bar and pay a small amount of attention to the field.
- No deep wound. First of all, this is meant for a physical heavy build - ie you take it to fulfill a niche role when you feel that you already have enough DW - see the case where Glad used it. I know that Glad running a build doesn't make it good, but it is useful in certain roles. Secondly, Impale is in Variants. Nothings stoping you taking it.
- "Lol dagger ranger". Dagger rangers are mostly bad. That doesn't mean all are bad.
- "Sins can do this better". SA sins are fragile, with pretty unstable energy. They don't really do anything much better than this. Energy management is atleast as good if not better here, and the increase in damage is minor between the two professions. This lets you use SA more often, which is better in certain cases, as well as being more durable.
--Tab Moo 16:31, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
I've talked to Ska about it, and we've got a few clear viewpoints on the build - great, working but not great and trash. I'm going to leave it for another Admin or BM to look at and decide where it goes. --Tab Moo 17:26, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- TBH, it's not the best fucking thing out there, but does pack quite a few utilities (snare, stance removal, enchantment removal, etc). --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 17:27, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- I know that. See my vote. --Tab Moo 17:27, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- I know that. See my vote. --
Deep Wounddddd? — Rapta 
(talk|contribs) 17:49, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- Impale is optional. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 17:50, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
- No deep wound. First of all, this is meant for a physical heavy build - ie you take it to fulfill a niche role when you feel that you already have enough DW - see the case where Glad used it. I know that Glad running a build doesn't make it good, but it is useful in certain roles. Secondly, Impale is in Variants. Nothings stoping you taking it. obabys — Skakid 17:57, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
User:Relyk/Daggers without Sin/Template
- More like LOL I'm exhausting and pressuring you while you uselessly spam skills to try and counter the 120 damage auto attacks and covered deep wounds every 3 seconds. - PANIC! sexiness! 05:08, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
- Covered deep wound? - Misery Is HawtFile:Grumpy bear.JPG 05:10, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
Dear Frv
Is it really that useful in HB in it's current form? There is no deep wound. I assume you want the player to run this and players tend to be the prime source of damage and usually the only deep wound. I think the HB version would look quite different. - Misery Is HawtFile:Grumpy bear.JPG 11:12, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
You take rend on an ele/monk/something, not this. -Shen 11:15, 12 June 2008 (EDT)