Archive talk:R/D VoS Speed Runner

WELL Archive Build:R/D Enchanted Forge Runner. It's much slower and says "bye" to enchantment removing mobs.. And requires a staff to not have energy issues. ---Chaos- 11:05, 11 January 2009 (EST)

nat stride is bad here tbh -- 13:12, 11 January 2009

Only foes that hex on the Droks run are those who snare, and those are taken care of by VoS. ---Chaos- 13:17, 11 January 2009 (EST)

Why dont you use Dwarven Stability here instead of using it somewhere it doesnt fit...AT ALL!? --Anonimous. 13:43, 11 January 2009 (EST)

Using Dwarven Stability efficiently requires either high rank delver or alcohol. Using this efficiently doesn't even require a rank, and if r10 norn then IAU can be used for a 40s chain. IAU is also unstrippable and I don't want to stop for VoS whenever I meet Avicara or Grawl. ---Chaos- 13:48, 11 January 2009 (EST)

TBH I'd take dwarven. You don't need high delver and alcohol is in large supply. Just learn when you need to use each and you'll be fine. Also, I usually take storm chaser over serpent's quickness and Feel No Pain over troll unguent. Just my take, and I'm an expert at ranger running. I usually only use serpent's quickness if I don't have any beer and if I'm using R/Mo or R/W. Invincible Rogue 16:46, 11 January 2009 (EST)

What's the point of Dwarven if you pretty much already have constant anti-KD? The stances last long enough as is. I guess you could put that in place of YMLAD since you wouldn't really use it that much. 18:42, 11 January 2009 18:42, 11 January 2009 (EST)

Oh. And Anonimous...was your comment referencing the Build:W/any Charging Strike runner by any chance? Dwarven fits there. Failed troll attempt is fail. 18:45, 11 January 2009 18:45, 11 January 2009 (EST)

? FNP is in variants, but most people don't have it. Storm Chaser is just slower running which is why I wanted NS, although it might end suddenly. ---Chaos- 09:24, 12 January 2009 (EST)

I like this build. I'd like to see Dwarven Stability, though. Serpent's quickness is very nice combined with VoS and IAU. |NalanaDarkling| 15:12, 2 February 2009 (EST)

added optionals and listed as variant. ---Chaos- 15:38, 2 February 2009 (EST)

voters

you're saying this should be trashvoted because it has less survival capabilites than this? ---Chaos- 08:10, 16 February 2009 (EST)

that can perma VoS, meaning you won't get hit with hexes. This has no hex removal. (Tai on other account btw) Star of Exile 16:18, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

6s of VoS is all you need, really. If not, you can make it recharge in 7 so you won't lose any speed anyways. ---Chaos- 16:20, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

running through big mobs of ice imps/ice golems and stone summet (as happens in sometimes with droks run spawns) means that often VoS runs out too early, even if you activate it right after aggro. This means you need to remove snare hexes to get out of there even faster, because the mob is bigger. -- 16:22, 21 February 2009

Which won't happen with Serpent's+VoS. The other R/D solves the issue by stopping to remove crap in a vulnerable way. Oh, and nice sig. ---Chaos- 16:27, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

ty. i'd rather spend 1s (1/4s plus aftercast) removing a hex (two, in fact) with pious restoration than having to tank it out, which this couldn't do very well either. -- 16:34, 21 February 2009

I thought I made clear it doesn't need to tank. What you do is Serpent's-VoS-IMS-VoS, and now you're far from the mob, having Serpent's up for only 1/4s. And about the recharge on Serpent's, you rarely need to chain skills so it's recharged whenever needed. ---Chaos- 16:38, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

that 1s downtime is enough to get hexed. also, SQ has a 45 second recharge? i mean, come on, there are big mobs more often than that in lornar's -- 16:39, 21 February 2009

There are, but 1 cast of VoS is enough for the most of those. You need to chain VoS like once every 2 min at mots. And no, that 1s isn't enough to get hexed. ---Chaos- 16:44, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

yes it is -- 16:45, 21 February 2009

Technically, but Ice Imps don't use it that fast. ---Chaos- 17:05, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

still a possibility. my point is, this isn't all that much faster than the earth prayers version, and much less safe. -- 17:08, 21 February 2009

Safety doesn't really matter on a Droks run. I ran halfway to Snake Dance using Primal Express as my IMS, and only died because I didn't stop to regen a single time. ---Chaos- 17:09, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

how do you mean halfway to snake dance, halfway through dreadnoughts? -- 17:10, 21 February 2009

Halfway through Snake Dance, at the latitude of Warcamp. Btw, I had no selfheal either ;o or ranks ---Chaos- 17:12, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

snakedance is easy and no measure of a runner of any sort. unless you're a perma with no IAU. -- 17:16, 21 February 2009

Snake Dance means I already ran through Lornar's and Dreaddy. Compare the speed droks derv and the regular one. Here's the same thing. ---Chaos- 17:18, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Did tai just vote this build doesn't work cause because although you can do the run faster, you can die easier?--Relyk 16:06, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Tai is a bad runner ;D Invincible Rogue 17:31, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Two things: LJ, don't call me bad when you can't even run yourself. Second, Chaos, why do you have two votes. -- 19:47, 27 February 2009

I voted to test, before the votes were given to the correct people. I see only one vote made by me =/ ---Chaos- 13:58, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, it's gone now. Mighta been a glitch, but the funny thing was, one was a 4.8 and the other was a 5. -- 14:00, 28 February 2009

I deleted the one I saw and the other one appeared. ---Chaos- 12:54, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

What happens when VoS goes away and your in the middle of a mob of snares? =/ 15:37, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

That means you do something wrong. ---Chaos- 15:56, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

OHEYGUYS

Chaos @ revolutionizing the running section in his favor. You're my bitches. ---Chaos is gay - 10:36, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

>.<

It's kind of dishonest saying that this is the fastest build for a ranger. Invincible Rogue 23:35, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Ups. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 07:48, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Archive

R/A is superior to this in every way. So archive? Demonic Sin Ex 05:11, October 1, 2010 (UTC)