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What about going R/A for Sharpen Daggers and the extra degen? Bear in mind that sharpening your daggers will stack with poisoning your arrows... And for some weird reason, both things stack even if you use a scythe :S
 
What about going R/A for Sharpen Daggers and the extra degen? Bear in mind that sharpening your daggers will stack with poisoning your arrows... And for some weird reason, both things stack even if you use a scythe :S
 
:sharpen daggers is in cs amirite?--[[User:Relyk|Relyk]] 04:03, 5 February 2009 (EST)
 
:sharpen daggers is in cs amirite?--[[User:Relyk|Relyk]] 04:03, 5 February 2009 (EST)
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Spreads poison and burning all with one skill! Hell Yea!! Huynh Sanity 20:31, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

Great Build Frosty No U! 21:40, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
Izzy must being doing hallucinogens on a regular basis at this point--GoldenGoldenstarStar 21:40, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
This beat Burning Arrow overall. --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 21:41, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
Duh--GoldenGoldenstarStar 21:42, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
Archive BA? MuffinPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 23:46, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
Archive is still a stronger Ganker. Frosty No U! 23:46, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
Is this good in pve as well, cause degen isnt usually as effect in pve (tagged for pve) MuffinPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 23:58, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
Volley - remove preparations + Burning is ftw. - GenericWikier1 Generic Wiki-er 00:03, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
Incendiary + Ignite Arrows show be good in pve. Mightymousemoush 00:56, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
I thought there was a reason these multi arrow skills removed preps... Luminarus 03:58, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
Because of the old Incendiary Arrows. 71.255.141.246 08:45, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

love the buff, does anyone think this could be a good capper build for AB? 96.243.19.150 10:54, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

Works quite well, you can degen them to death quite fast without aggroing them. --Sir Bertrand 13:37, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

Should we add Choking Gas in as a variant, or is it dwarfed so much by Apply that it shouldn't be bothered with?

Choking is bad. Ignite Arrows is good, to some extent. - GenericWikier1 Generic Wiki-er 11:41, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

Protection Prayers

Added 1 Prot to the attrbutes as it wasnt there. Luminarus 23:57, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

Ignite Arrows + Poison Tipped Signet

Unlike the other ranger builds which auto win in rating by only changing the elite, because you hit multiple foes with your bow attack you could run Ignite Arrows instead of apply causing it to trigger up to three times on each hit allowing for a small spike while at the same time maintaining the ability to poison via Poison Tipped Signet. Because you already have high Wilderness Survival the signet can maintain poison for a decent amount of time without removal. This would likely be more efficient in PvE and AB/CM due to the lack of condition removal and tendency to clump. 122.104.165.13 06:37, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

PTS only affect 1 arrow, Incendiary + Apply is why it is OP. Frosty No U! 06:39, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
It's not overpowered. WHILE it does spread poison and burning, there is no + damage like there is for burning arrow, volley, or barrage. IF it had +damage then YES it would really be overpowered. 72.15.83.91 08:31, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
In a way, the anon is right; Ignite Arrows can deal 45 damage to ALL adjacent foes. If you added Splinter Weapon (from an outside source, most likely), that would be PvE-like spiking (maybe not reliable, though, because it requires foes to be close by). I can imagine some pretty awesome capping in AB with that, too. Poison Tip Signet is pretty shitty, though, and Apply Poison will still be a lot better for GvG, TA and RA. ــмıкεнaшк 11:44, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

Attributes are bad

13 expertise(2 energy attacks)>1 second burning82.8.146.164 16:02, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

You could just run major expertise...it isn't debilitating on a ranger. But yeah, it needs 13 expertise imo. 2 energy attack every 3 seconds > 3 energy attack every three seconds. - GenericWikier1 Generic Wiki-er 16:52, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

merge.

all of the utili rangers or make guide. I feel this post must be made b/c it is almost a staple in utiliranger talk pages. :P--UnderImage- (PvP)Gunned 18:08, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

Does that count as trolling? ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   18:09, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
I guess it would o.0, i thought of it more like tradition than a serious argument though really lol.--UnderImage- (PvP)Gunned 18:11, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
I think I'm going to make a R/Me Blackout+Antidote Signet version for all of the remaining meta Ranger bars. >.> This is starting to get to be too much, tbh. Also, Build:R/Mo_Degen_Spammer can probably spread degen better, although single target degen is lower. ــмıкεнaшк 18:43, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
This is pretty ridiculous. Being able to stick degen on up to 3 people is a huge advantage, with the Poison Arrow ranger you're forced to spend almost all of your time spamming Poison Arrow. --Ibreaktoilets SignatureTab Moo 18:45, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
Plus this can shoot arrows backwards Frosty No U! 18:46, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
That is pretty awesome, tbh. I take back what I said. lol 12 spec Natural Stride and Troll are pretty nice, too. ــмıкεнaшк 18:50, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

I'd go with 11+1+1/11+1/8+2 for attribs. Major isn't a big deal on a ranger. --Ibreaktoilets SignatureTab Moo 18:52, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

There is no 10 breakpoint for 10 marksman though Frosty No U! 18:54, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
domage The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Rawr. 18:55, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
3 more damage per attack (on average) isn't worth 35 less health, tbh. [1]. ــмıкεнaшк 19:01, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
Oh, I lied. Forgot Incendiary was linked to Wilderness. --Ibreaktoilets SignatureTab Moo 05:49, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
If you want the extra damage, you can always go with vamp, +15 health ftw or Favorable Winds would work. Huynh Sanity 02:08, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

Troll Ungent + M-touch

Why is this still on ranger bars? It's not needed as you won't split anyway, except for guild lord ganks(where you have healing support and won't touch those 2 skills anyway). Antidote sig is way better at stand; and you can actually take something usefull(like pure was mei ling) instead of troll. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 05:35, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

Go ahead and change it, i'm sure no one will rage cuz everyone over here just agrees with you no matter what. Actually, you should submit a Spirit's Strength Rit to check if it does get through vetting then. Brandnew. 05:45, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
And Mtouch ownz in arena's for off monk condition removal. (why the fuck would you take incendairy over BA in arena's?) Brandnew. 05:46, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
Antidote sig and blackout for monk ownage at stand imho--GoldenGoldenstarStar 20:06, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

RA tag

Should this be in ra? Hitting multiple foes in ra does not occur that often (in which cast BA would be better) MuffinPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 20:04, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

Nearby is massive. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   20:20, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
^ I rarely, rarely hit only one target with IA. --ιtокагџ ιѕ ѕяѕвѕлѕ, малItokaruSignature 20:43, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

equipment

i am pretty sure you can only carry 4 bows at once, unless reaching into your inventory and grabbing one is efficent.--UnderImage- (PvP)Gunned 19:34, 15 August 2008 (EDT)

It's not that efficient, tbh. But it's effective, and that's what matters. - GenericWikier1 Generic Wiki-er 19:47, 15 August 2008 (EDT)
Yep. How else do you wanna take your defensive sets? -StarSeeker | My talk 12:21, 16 August 2008 (EDT)
It's not all that hard. Have 3 bows and the most relevant shield set out at any time, and when you're changing from 8v8 play to splitting or ganking or whatever, choose the 3 most relevant bows. --Tab MooTab Piplup 12:23, 16 August 2008 (EDT)
Oh i wasn't looking close enough, I'm too lazy to take the time to find a good guild so I spend all my time in RA/AB...--UnderImage- (PvP)Gunned 21:02, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

Lots of effort

Wow... This took alot of effort to make http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Cripshot a few attribute switches and one skill switch for degen instead of cripple.... Fascinating....

Is that the only bar you saw that looked similar to this? I suggest looking at great builds, clicking on the burning arrow and magebane shot builds, then look at their talk pages.--UnderImage- (PvP)Gunned 18:10, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

archive?

the main skill incendary arrows has been nerfed, imo this build is less effective than burning arrow ranger now. 90.203.203.99 10:23, 13 September 2008 (EDT)

What are you talking about? This got uber buffed and has never been nered... --FrostySnowmanF 10:28, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
my bad, read the skill description wrong >.< 90.203.203.99 10:46, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
Well, now it has been nerfed to a 5 second recharge. Bummer. Charon 19:17, 9 October 2008 (EDT)

Nerf

5 Second recharge, I guess it is still more than viable but one of those silly, not as imba as before nerfs. --FrostyMini england 19:17, 9 October 2008 (EDT)

Move back to testing I'd say. Nerf isn't enough for archival. Still viable. - Tai MS STAR OF EXILE 19:19, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
I'd say it is still great, just not as imba as before, 3 people burning and poisoned every 5 seconds ontop of general poison spread is still strong. --FrostyMini england 19:23, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
wouldnt really use this over Mel, BA etc now fairly well in cond pressure but meh as stand..:/ Massive Image-Massive Sig 16:44, 10 October 2008 (EDT)
This is still the strongest stand skill for rangers tbh --FrostyMini england 16:50, 10 October 2008 (EDT)
nurf made me QQ but yeah still great pressure and such, i'd say no archive or moving to testing but thats just me.--HalloweenHALLOWWIKI 21:32, 10 October 2008 (EDT)
I support moving back to trial/testing to wipe the votes. -Auron 22:01, 10 October 2008 (EDT)
looks like consensus is to move it to testing. would like an admin/bm to wipe votes. ☆Imbagon♥McSteve☆(LVPoW) Cuz Steve said so... ツ 22:09, 10 October 2008 (EDT)
Done. -Auron 22:33, 10 October 2008 (EDT)

Was this

5-5-5's across the board before the nerf?--UnderImage- (PvP)Gunned 22:49, 12 October 2008 (EDT)

It really should be still tbh --FrostyMini england 02:24, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

R/El in AB

Look on my Page about a variant with Ignite Arrows and Conjure Flame. This is not degen spamming, but simple mass destruction for capping and againts more then 2/3 foes. this cap very fast everyshrine, even alone.Imagine a scd R with the same build .... When needed, You can mass mob to (defnde a shrine etc...) - I like to explode minions armys and ruin any N/D MM with that. --Rancoeur Subtile 06:39, 19 November 2008 (EST)

splinter AoE

this idea worked out pretty well for me, so id like to propose it as a possible variant of this build, even though it requires you to change the secondary to ritualist.

attributes: skill just enough for the bow in marksmanship, 9-10 in channeling magic 9-10 in expertise and all the rest into wilderness survival.

skills: swap apply poison for ignite arrows, also get splinter weapon. swap either one of the interrupts or natural stride for serpents quickness.

cast splinter weapon, use the preparation, enter serpents quickness, aim for the middle of the mob.

hope you like it! 88.75.33.63 20:57, 16 December 2008 (EST)nycaloth

RA/TA

Are there really going to be anough enemies grouped together for Icendiary Arrows to work effectively in RA/TA? I would think not, which means Burning Arrow should be favoured. Pine Ofthaven 14:27, 21 December 2008 (EST)

Bleeding?

What about going R/A for Sharpen Daggers and the extra degen? Bear in mind that sharpening your daggers will stack with poisoning your arrows... And for some weird reason, both things stack even if you use a scythe :S

sharpen daggers is in cs amirite?--Relyk 04:03, 5 February 2009 (EST)

Troll is Bad

Hunter's is 5xbetter and infinity x more used. Fishels[슴Mc슴]Mootles 12:36, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

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