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this build could just be considered a variant of this, couldn't it? FrenzyPunjab 01:39, 3 October 2007 (CEST)

If by variant, you mean a similar build that doesn't suck, yes. :) --Edru viransu//QQ about me/sysop 01:42, 3 October 2007 (CEST)
yeh, that FrenzyPunjab 01:44, 3 October 2007 (CEST)

Needs Whirling and DPS. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 01:48, 3 October 2007 (CEST)

DPS as in... damage per second? because it's a trapper. FrenzyPunjab 01:52, 3 October 2007 (CEST)
Death pact siggy — Skakid9090 01:54, 3 October 2007 (CEST)
o. FrenzyPunjab 02:08, 3 October 2007 (CEST)
Most obs matches I've seen with a smoke trapper use Flesh of my Flesh. —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ 01:59, 3 October 2007 (CEST)
Whirling Defense -> LR, you dont attack your with bow, and d-shot has a 1/2 activation regardless of IAS or uh...DAS? --Hikari 02:00, 3 October 2007 (CEST)
DAS = defensive attack speed? --Mahsa 05:37, 3 October 2007 (CEST)
Decreased Attack Speed is what I was going for there =P Meaning it will still activate in 1/2 second even if you had say...faintheartedness on you. --Hikari 06:52, 4 October 2007 (CEST)
No. -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 15:40, 20 October 2007 (CEST)
Still, LR is a better stance for my part, cuz of the faster recharge you can use it better with natural. And if you get a wild blow / throw, you have a faster recharge. - Weapon of FuryUnexist 11:06, 21 October 2007 (CEST)
Exactly. 220.101.180.197 11:23, 21 October 2007 (CEST)

Another advantage to Lightning Reflexes is you can autoattack a dazed target in your spear and shield set to interrupt a dazed character

Do the condition enhancing strings work when you set the trap or when they go off? 76.186.15.83 15:33, 18 January 2008 (EST)

Do they even work on traps in the first place? -Sardaukar Blackfang 11:27, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Archive?

Nobody use them nowadays, the last time i've seen these being used was when LoD and wards were still around and VoD=NPC farming. BLaZ 17:43, 13 November 2008 (EST)

These are still used. --FrostyMini england 17:51, 13 November 2008 (EST)
Is death pact still used ? Hikari 20:51, 18 December 2008 (EST)
Rarely. --71.229 21:06, 18 December 2008 (EST)
DPS is hawt.—Cheese Slaya's Sig Cheese Slaya (Talk) 20:34, 7 January 2009 (EST)

This thing is dead. Archive plx. —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş Grinshpon blinky cake 00:36, 8 January 2009 (EST)

I would be terrified if this makes it's comeback. The removal of PnH makes this interesting again, and dumb eles rushing towards a base will be caught by traps makes me shiver.
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