Archive talk:R/W BA Turret

the return of rebel rising. --Frosty 10:13, 12 November 2008 (EST)

do you obs more than you play =o? Saint 10:23, 12 November 2008 (EST)

nop --Frosty 10:41, 12 November 2008 (EST)

I knew some fag would post this, kind of figured it would be you. Now go vote up my flail ranger ;o - Misery Is Friendly 10:42, 12 November 2008 (EST)

Escape one :< --Frosty 10:47, 12 November 2008 (EST)

Fine, be euro, keep spiking, never split. If you want you can take Sloth Hunter's and Hunter's instead of Debilitating. Pew pew rangers are demons on the gank tbh. - Misery Is Friendly 11:00, 12 November 2008 (EST)

Debilitating shot is just so piss annoying though...--66.192.104.13 11:15, 12 November 2008 (EST)

Which is why I put it on Build:R/W Flailing Interrupter, but we are totally digressing from how [rawr] went ups, you nerfed ED, fuck it, we'll keep playing the same way with this. - Misery Is Friendly 11:35, 12 November 2008 (EST)

How did I know Frosty was going to put this on? Railin 17:37, 12 November 2008 (EST)

Another fail ranger with no self heal, and no you don't always have a monk 68.47.192.6 02:07, 15 November 2008 (EST)

lol --Frosty 03:37, 15 November 2008 (EST)

Another fail anon--Get Your Wood On Discuss 04:03, 15 November 2008 (EST)

lolx2 ~Dronte~ 13:54, 20 November 2008 (EST)

Variants

This needs more. Mel's Shot works well in this build. Consensus? --The preceding srsly srs comment was added by Itokaru 01:41, 22 November 2008 (EST)

Needling Shot ftw. --Rancoeur Subtile 19:43, 22 November 2008 (EST)

Needling Shot will drain you quick and WoH Monks usually spoil it's spammability. I'd say Keen Arrow if you want more raw damages vs. bleeding because most of your teammates will already have bleeding-inducing attacks. Just my thought. --Ulterion 19:46, 22 November 2008 (EST)

Needling Shot won't drain you quick, it's just a terrible skill. --The preceding srsly srs comment was added by Itokaru 20:32, 22 November 2008 (EST)

The purpose of this build isn't it about high damage in riffle? Look like Needling is a fast, very powerfull and low cost skill who do well the job. This build have yet a problem of e-management, Needling can bypass it in an reasonable way, an can kill VERY fast a -50% health opponent.About WoH, it can spoil every arrows skill, not only Needle, no?^^' ... oh yeah, and I just wanted to say that when I play this build, ennemy monks are not so much a problem ... the problem is poor defense if no healer in the team (for RA), and the E management. But this build really rocks, and deserve his reputation.--Rancoeur Subtile 10:31, 23 November 2008 (EST)

Yes, the purpose of this build is high damage. 44 damage (29 damage from Needling, +10 from Read the Wind and +5 from vamp) is not high. Also, there are zero energy problems with this build. I spam BA-Hunters-Savage on recharge and don't run into energy problems. --The preceding srsly srs comment was added by Itokaru 15:58, 23 November 2008 (EST)

Needle make high damage by ultra spam.--Rancoeur Subtile 17:49, 23 November 2008 (EST)

It's still low, conditional damage that costs energy. Needling Shot is bad. --The preceding srsly srs comment was added by Itokaru 17:47, 5 December 2008 (EST)

Mel's Shot with it's 1sec casting can be nice choice. ArtDeRueTALK! 04:44, 23 November 2008 (EST)

burning arrow turret more like Bad ass turret lololololololol. 74.192.159.142 10:30, 25 November 2008 (EST)

Since we already have flail as IAS, do we really need Lighting Reflexes? Maybe drop it out for Troll Unguent or Natural Stride? Colonel Hawk 22:48, 25 November 2008 (EST)

That'd require you to spec into wild survival, lightning is there as anti-spike, not IAS. In GVG, with lightning you should NOT die to any physical spike.--GoldenStar 22:50, 25 November 2008 (EST)

Throw Dust jk--Shadow 22:55, 25 November 2008 (EST)

Ofc it's also a nice IAS to start of whit :> But it is very flexible, its probably the variant in this build (Mtouch for split etc Sup style <3) Massive 12:37, 2 December 2008 (EST)

Flail is the optional in this build, seen it replaced with mtouch many times. LR is the shizzle. Tritan 00:38, 12 December 2008 (EST)

Major Rune

Is a major marks really necessary in this build? I know it will add damage, but you don't see major/sup runes in PvP often. --210.9.136.39 08:41, 16 December 2008 (EST)

14 Marks is another second on burning, this is a DPS Ranger, the extra 14 Dmg via degen per burning ( along with increased DPS overall) is worth - 35 HP. Hikari 20:49, 18 December 2008 (EST)

And it adds 2 more to the front end. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   20:54, 18 December 2008 (EST)

What sucks

I pewpewed stuff to death too much in FA and ran out of energy D:--ChristmasRelyk 08:25, 28 December 2008 (EST)

happens to me all day long, i feel ur pain :( PWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 17:00, 28 December 2008 (EST)

Ya its good but if u dont have a monk or other team has monk in RA it fails http://s1.bite-fight.us/c.php?uid=205964

This pew pew monks easy, easy easy dshots on woh. Frosty po! 21:29, 9 January 2009 (EST)

You're probably not going to get glads if you don't have a healer, regardless of what build you run. Toraen (Talk/Contrib) 03:37, 10 January 2009 (EST)

In CM

If you ran this vs say a Incendiary Arrow ranger in JQ, how could you truly consider both to be great? Incendiary Arrows is a) Capable of capping shrines faster, b) A LOT more likely to survive because of a self heal, c) able to remove conditions from itself without sacrificing pin down. Clearly Incendiary Arrows is a GREAT build for CM where as this build is not. It's good, but a single ele with Blinding Flash will smack you into the ground. A little bit of pressure will smack you into the ground.

Just because it is great in organised PvP doesn't mean it is great everywhere else. Not all arenas have a monk, not all arenas have the same objectives. PvX wiki needs to have separate builds section for different arenas instead of lumping a great tag on something that works in GvG and HA but is terribad in un-organised PvP or arenas with different objectives. Get someone to run this and then run IA in JQ and see which one was better. I'm not saying the build is bad, I'm saying the rating doesn't reflect the arena you play in, maybe it's time to rate builds for individual arenas because there is a clear difference in performance for each arena. 122.111.93.80 22:02, 12 January 2009 (EST)

dshot bflash — Skakid Rally- kupo! 22:16, 12 January 2009 (EST)

3/4 second cast time and a duration twice it's recharge. I'm not saying it can't be done, I am saying if that's what your entire build is resting on then have fun. 122.111.93.80 22:24, 12 January 2009 (EST)

3/4 cast isn't hard to interrupt, and RtW + flail makes it disgustingly easy =\--GoldenStar 22:42, 12 January 2009 (EST)

ANTIDOTE SIGNETPikaFanFile:Chrismaspika sig.jpg 22:54, 12 January 2009 (EST)

Ive been using Wild Blow cause of this one dam touch ranger from luxon side, i lold as i pewpewed his Whirling Defensegay ass--File:Relyk sig666.jpgRelyk_||_I hammers u! 23:57, 12 January 2009 (EST)

And ba turret is so fking oped in fa--File:Relyk sig666.jpgRelyk_||_I hammers u! 23:58, 12 January 2009 (EST)

Bonetti's

Never seen it in TA before. Bonetti's Defense ends if you use a skill. Why would you use this on a turret? It also doesn't have the IAS lightning reflexes has. Railin 11:22, 13 January 2009 (EST)

Is strong. Frosty po! 11:24, 13 January 2009 (EST)

Because you have 8 adrenaline all the time so you can use it whenever you get attacked AND it means you can spam savage shot like a whore? Rawrawr Dinosaur 11:25, 13 January 2009 (EST)

nrgz--File:Relyk sig747.JPGRelyk_||_I hammers u! 11:57, 13 January 2009 (EST)

Also apparently sexy for making sure you can renew RtW and get res sig off without being shot by other turret whores. - 11:58, 13 January 2009 (EST)

as well as have a 75% chance to get res sig off, and if they are raping your rtw you can get that off too. -- Gringo TALK 17:00, 13 January 2009(EST) whups just noticed panic said that. -- Gringo TALK 17:00, 13 January 2009(EST)

In all fairness I had to ask why you would take it, too. As Rawr says, if you run it you do end up with it charged often enough to be useful and the times you would use it (preps, rez, possibly even defensively), you won't necessarily be attacking anyway so the IAS loss isn't too bad. - 12:07, 13 January 2009 (EST)

ive also seen it on a ton of magebanes, helpful for getting apply up. -- Gringo TALK 17:09, 13 January 2009(EST)

Last time I used magebane in TA it was the standard R/Mo bar and I used nat stride but yeah same theory. - 14:36, 13 January 2009 (EST)

People who are not bad are able to defile on time so n-stride ends and you still dshot unless the ranger is terrible and dshots at the beginning ;/ —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 14:50, 25 January 2009 (EST)

True. But you'd still try to use Nat Stride to cockblock a savage or dshot on your apply/rez. - 04:37, 27 January 2009 (EST)

sry but why only in ta?Illoyon 15:40, 14 January 2009 (EST)

Because it's terrible everywhere else (everywhere else being HA and GvG) — Skakid Rally- kupo! 23:55, 26 January 2009 (EST)

Also everywhere else--Relyk 04:23, 17 February 2009 (EST)