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Fuckin ownz. OYN after enraged KD btw. --    Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   22:27, 11 December 2008 (EST)

has amazing potential...--IkimonoI know my ParagonsParagon-icon-small 22:33, 11 December 2008 (EST)
One of the best of this update tbh. Lots and lots of kd, and lots of defense. --    Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   22:34, 11 December 2008 (EST)
The peace and harmony update made me jump for joy.--IkimonoI know my ParagonsParagon-icon-small 22:41, 11 December 2008 (EST)
Very unique I like it.(Timcago 00:11, 12 December 2008 (EST))
one thing after looking at it (thought i saw a different skill first), Hammer Bash removes all your adrenaline, so the only chance you're going to get to use "On Your Knees!" is when you KD with Enraged. Other than that it looks good.--IkimonoI know my ParagonsParagon-icon-small 09:10, 12 December 2008 (EST)
  • Use "OYK!" after you KD the foe with Enraged Smash
  • Spam Hammer Bash

wut? So bstrike someone with enraged, hit OYK and lose all the adrenaline you gained and somehow manage to be able to spam hammer bash? - Panic sig5 09:33, 12 December 2008 (EST)

You'd be better with distracting strike to catch skills when they stand up since you don't have the benefit of Daze. - Panic sig5 09:49, 12 December 2008 (EST)
yea, that looks better. Or you could bring "None Shall Pass!" for the Monty Python reference and an extra KD.--IkimonoI know my ParagonsParagon-icon-small 10:01, 12 December 2008 (EST)
Or you could bring something that isn't a 10e, 45s recharge bull's strike instead. Like bull's strike. - Panic sig5 10:55, 12 December 2008 (EST)
What do you reccomend to do then? You can drop hammer bash and still take oyk, or drop oyk? I would have to go with that one.... Frenzy+Nat Stride then? lol.... ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   11:25, 12 December 2008 (EST)
I gave you recommendations. dstrike, prot strike, and bull's are probably your only choices there. - Panic sig5 11:35, 12 December 2008 (EST)

Look mate, i can't KD with that elite because they stop always xD.--ValeV 11:16, 12 December 2008 (EST)

And yet every warrior in PvP manages to hit their Bull's strikes. - Panic sig5 11:35, 12 December 2008 (EST)
LOL @ You. Hitting bull's strike is by far the most serious thing that a warrior should be good at; and it is far from easy, ofcourse becoming harder and harder against better players. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 15:13, 13 December 2008 (EST)
That's what I was thinking, if the target doesn't kite you can only KD with Hammer Bash, which means you lose your adrenaline and can't use OYK to recharge your stances. However, kiting is usually preferable to standing still and getting hammered with melee and ele DoTAoE. Anyhow Enraged Smash = adrenaline machine = Hammer Bash often enough to make this viable. Should be fun to test.--Spoon 11:53, 12 December 2008 (EST)
Question - Hows the timing if you Enraged->Prot Strike->HBash? How long are they up inbetween? ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   12:05, 12 December 2008 (EST)
Possible? ->
Enraged Smash Crushing Blow Hammer Bash Protector's Strike Optional Frenzy Natural Stride Resurrection Signet

~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   12:12, 12 December 2008 (EST)

Hammer Bash+Enraged is kind of redundant. If your target doesn't kite, better for you. Knocking down a standing target mostly matters in a spike situation, and you don't use R/Ws in spike teams. Asdfg 13:34, 12 December 2008 (EST)

Sprint is gud.

Enraged Smash Crushing Blow Hammer Bash Protector's Strike Lightning Reflexes Sprint Antidote Signet Resurrection Signet
--Lost 22:37, 12 December 2008 (EST)

Bull's Strike

Throw bull's strike in for another kite punish?Masterbow 04:58, 13 December 2008 (EST)

No need tbh.--Altruismliger Liger414 talk 04:59, 13 December 2008 (EST)
^What he said. There's already a 5 second recharge though :\ + hammer bash. Imo, if you hit with Enraged the first time, you've got a second KD to punish them, and by that time Enraged is recharged, then they stand up > Move > KD, and the wildebeest eat the grass. if you catch my drift.--IkimonoI know my ParagonsParagon-icon-small 05:01, 13 December 2008 (EST)

The name sounds like

Hammer Bash Crushing Blow Tiger's Fury Enraged Lunge Optional Optional Optional Optional

or something. It's confusing. -StarSeeker 05:43, 13 December 2008 (EST)


Enraged Smash Hammer Bash Crushing Blow Protector's Strike Flail Sprint Lightning Reflexes Resurrection Signet


mainbarring. --Frosty 08:56, 13 December 2008 (EST)

Ok. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   08:59, 13 December 2008 (EST)
I suppose the original bar had "OYK!".. Do you want lightning reflexes anymore? 3 stances already anyways. --Chaos Messenger 11:39, 13 December 2008 (EST)
Lightning Reflexes is amazing. --Frosty 11:46, 13 December 2008 (EST)
Flail + Hammerbash. Fuck Yea.--IkimonoI know my ParagonsParagon-icon-small 11:49, 13 December 2008 (EST)
What? ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   11:51, 13 December 2008 (EST)
At a guess, I'd say Flail is for when you catch someone with Enraged and Lightning Reflexes is down. Kabu To 11:58, 13 December 2008 (EST)

This actually looks rather good; however, drop flail as it's trash on the current bar. Expertise makes you spam that precious prot strike so you actually still have damage. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 15:10, 13 December 2008 (EST)

I suppose that too is an aswell droppable stance. I'm happy when we're down to two of em.--Chaos Messenger 15:17, 13 December 2008 (EST)

I saw this coming a mile away when I first saw the changes. This is going to be everywhere soon. =.= Looks pretty good as is. Add poison for increased levels of epic IMO KaHasuken

A variant could be to drop sprint and LR for tigers fury and run as one (note that it doesnt need a pet). With 8+1 in BM this would allow you to keep up an IAS for 90% of the time, and have a longer lasting speed boost. Although this would lower you defence without a blocking stance. Subarucar 19:36, 13 December 2008 (EST)

Raise

Wildy and put in natural stride>? instead of d-strike. Longer IMS ? Dutchess of Roseakalukejohnson - talk 19:59, 13 December 2008 (EST)

Yeah no reason not to spec in it, just means some zealous hammer--Relyk chtistmas2ChristmasRelyk 22:56, 13 December 2008 (EST)
Actually, it only makes energy better. If you replace Sprint w/ it I mean. Cuz Sprint is unaffected by Exp, and there are no 10e skills, which is the only reason to take 14, but NS is. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   22:59, 13 December 2008 (EST)
Well i thought the spread would be 12, 10, 8 or 12, 9, 9.--Relyk chtistmas2ChristmasRelyk 23:18, 13 December 2008 (EST)

Prob add variant of 12 9 9 then. but prob not main. --    Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   23:26, 13 December 2008 (EST)

Meh

Variants

  • Rush over Sprint.

Mind fixing this? When this hits the meta and "wiki-noobs" start swarming here someone might get confuzzled. --Chaos Messenger 13:43, 14 December 2008 (EST)

Why the hell is Embrace in here? -- Jebuscontests 17:14, 14 December 2008 (EST)
Idk, Ska or Rawr did it, i dont remember. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   17:16, 14 December 2008 (EST)

You do realize that Hammer bash causes you to lose all adren. Therefore you can't activate "On your knees!" To recharge your stances? Just pointin that out

Ah forgive me. I didn't check to see if Enraged smashed got changed.

Sign your comments.
Psst, Enraged Smash costs energy and not adrenaline and can be used to fuel OYK but I dislike that. Fix the stances imo --Chaos Messenger 14:36, 15 December 2008 (EST)
expertise>energy.Un.ɖɩđđɭɘş —ɱƈ.Ŗęąḻ.ḻƴƿʃooƿʂ UNREALs heart touch my red link! 21:55, 26 December 2008 (EST)

We can drop Expertise by one and put 6 into Wilderness Survival for Natural Stride and more block-whoring. =/ ــмıкεнaшк 22:13, 26 December 2008 (EST)

It's only 4 seconds of IMS, though. ــмıкεнaшк 22:14, 26 December 2008 (EST)
you knock them down? and 33% > 25% to catch up to people with enraged Dutchess of Roseakalukejohnson - talk 07:46, 27 December 2008 (EST)
Should be fine with it, it gives enough time to chase them down. --—Santa's Messenger TheDentist 07:58, 27 December 2008 (EST)
Meh, was mentioned, but rawr/ska/someone good put Storm's in and removed NS so meh. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:14, 27 December 2008 (EST)
But splitting atb's for nothing is just stupid, Storm's Embrace works good enough and it's rechargable. And hey, if you want quick damage, wouldn't Distracting Strike be better than Prot Strike? --—Santa's Messenger TheDentist 15:52, 27 December 2008 (EST)
Cant spam it, and ull be spamming kds pretty fast anyways--Relyk chtistmas2ChristmasRelyk 15:53, 27 December 2008 (EST)
oy it recharges in 3? O_o --—Santa's Messenger TheDentist 16:06, 27 December 2008 (EST)
Idk what you are trying to say CHaos. Prot Strike rec in 3 yes, and DStrike is 15 so it is unspammable. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   16:40, 27 December 2008 (EST)
I didn't think about recharges and as such went to say something as stupid as dist strike > prot strike. understood? --—Santa's Messenger TheDentist 17:32, 27 December 2008 (EST)
d-strike is still strong tho--20pxRelyk_||_I hammers u! 02:13, 18 January 2009 (EST)

imo

OYK off the mainbar.. It's only useable if you get a KD with Enraged. I'd prefer Storm Chaser as the IMS. It lasts a while even with only a few points, and you can afford taking 1 off expertise, it doesn't affect skill costs. ---Chaos- 13:16, 8 February 2009 (EST)

i agree, I rather spend the adrenaline on bash MuffinPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 13:18, 8 February 2009 (EST)
Enraged Smash Protector's Strike Hammer Bash Crushing Blow Lightning Reflexes Flail Rush Resurrection Signet

That's what I run when I play this bar. 71.202.111.2 13:28, 8 February 2009 (EST)

Are you kidding, I run this exact same build on my Ranger because I suck with bows, never got the chance to post it on here, anyway looks good. Rayscee 15:15, 8 February 2009 (EST)

mainbar

add irresistable, spirnt, and antidote for excessive kds in ra, pwns stance monk meta MuffinPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 16:58, 9 February 2009 (EST)

Yep. Zyke 21:41, 15 February 2009 (EST)
Hammer Bash Crushing Blow Enraged Smash Irresistible Blow Protector's Strike "On Your Knees!" Lightning Reflexes Optional

lol Zyke 21:46, 15 February 2009 (EST)

Name change

See above, freakin' confusing. Change it to Smashing Thumper or ES Thumper. >.> Zyke 21:41, 15 February 2009 (EST)

Storm's Embrace

I get the idea, but I just don't like it in this build. Why not use Dodge Dodge or invest in Wilderness and use Natural Stride Natural Stride Adorably shocked mcmonkey sig (21:45, 15 February 2009 - )

Hammer Bash Crushing Blow Enraged Smash Protector's Strike Sprint "On Your Knees!" Lightning Reflexes Optional

IMO Zyke 21:47, 15 February 2009 (EST)

OYK only recharges if you hit with ESmash on a moving foe, assuming you have adrenaline, which you won't, because you spam Bash. KJ, Dodge ends on attack, Natural Stride lasts too short without a heavy spec ---Chaos- 21:52, 15 February 2009 (EST)
IMO, build really should be (Flail/Frenzy if brave)

<pvxbig> [build prof=r/w exp=6+1+1 hammer=12 wilder=11+1][enraged smash][hammer bash][crushing blow][Protector's Strike][Distracting Strike][Natural Stride][optional][resurrection signet][/build] </pvxbig>

Messy. ---Chaos- 22:11, 15 February 2009 (EST)

Imo

<pvxbig> [build prof=r/w exp=10+1+1 hammer=11 wilder=10+1][enraged smash][hammer bash][crushing blow][Protector's Strike][Optional][lightning reflexes][Natural Stride][resurrection signet][/build] </pvxbig> The hammer skills work fine at 11. Adorably shocked mcmonkey sig (22:43, 15 February 2009 - )

That should be mainbar. 33%IMS+50%Block stance w/ 50% uptime > 25%IAS stance w/ 53% uptime. Saves more energy too. Alhough it should be 10 wilderness/11+1+2 because Natural Stride@10 = Natural Stride@11 and 2e skills rule. Zyke-Sig 08:49, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

<pvxbig> [build prof=r/w exp=10+1+1 hammer=12 wilder=10+1][enraged smash][hammer bash][crushing blow][Protector's Strike][Optional][lightning reflexes][Natural Stride][resurrection signet][/build] </pvxbig>

11, 11+1+1, 8--Relyk 08:55, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
^missin a few points there I think, 11, 11+1+1, 9. Zyke-Sig 08:59, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
no its 11-11-8 Hydra 15:19, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
The damage from this bar is simply put just too low, if they stand still you really have no +dmg attack and your KD doesn't even recharge any faster than the warrior version who gets more adrenaline from enraged. The only bonus I can see is that this can block, but is that worth the massive amount of damage lost by giving up strength and hammer mastery points?I heal if you shut it 03:39, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Then you're doing it wrong. E-smash + prot strike + hit = 6a. KD every 4 - 6 seconds if the target stands still, big damage + 2 KDs if target moves. Spam e-smash and prot strike. Hammer bars also don't have much +dmg attacks. Zyke-Sig 03:48, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
The thing is a War can do all this with higher hammer mastery and strength. The only difference is that the war also gets a thing called an IAS, which I guess is underrated. This can spam more often, but it just.... doesn't feel worth it.I heal if you shut it 21:02, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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