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Another guess what i belive will become meta after the update. Fishels[슴Mc슴]Mootles 13:49, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Very clearly, HC is nerfed or YAA is buffed. Izzy was pretty clear on the fact he hated professions abusing skills outside of their primaries.Lightningbolt siguɐɟɐʞıd 13:50, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Not mixing professions is what I hate Izzy most for. I thought of this already earlier :3 ---Chaos- 13:53, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Can assure you this will be very intresting. Fishels[슴Mc슴]Mootles 13:57, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
>_> YAA is buffed.Lightningbolt siguɐɟɐʞıd 13:59, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Baiting is fun ^^. Fishels[슴Mc슴]Mootles 14:04, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
So is probably keeping the secret. Don't break my heart Fishy :'< ---Chaos- 14:06, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
TBH, I didn't attempt to bait that off you. It was pretty clear that HC would be nerfed with your posting of this build, just that the moment you said things would be interesting, it seemed like YAA was going to be buffed. Lightningbolt siguɐɟɐʞıd 14:07, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

i so love izzy for forgetting something that was written on the gamebox. what was it now..."Combine skills from two professions, link them yourself or chain them with a teammate's skills to devastate your enemies." (picture of hamstorm above it). is that what we need to use in order to avoid updates that punish the usage of 2 professions >.>. i also like build sorry for ranting Funkopotomis 01:16, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

If ou don't want secondary professions abused, don't make skills so fuckinf OP'd like HC. RickyRicksawsmfacevantof 19:17, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey at least the updates made sense this time. Nerfing stance monks, forcibly eliminating turret rangers, and in a somewhat balanced way. Not "Hey, lets put Cracked Armor on Lightning Orb so that people will spike differently!" Jebus 21:03, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
They do make sense, but builds like this one prove that for whatever nerf they come up with, another semi-abusive combination springs up in it's place. TBH, this build is worse than HC, as HC actually required att investment to work. In a similar vein, I wrote a thread on GWO about the secondary's history and future: http://guildwars.incgamers.com/showthread.php?t=486794 . Check it out, comment, w/e. Many good valid points in there. User:Benjammn311 02:05, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
i summarize for everyones. (secondary is good but make sure its not too good. if however you decide that finding a combination that works well is good too bad its nerf time) more or less what the dev page said from before during the water mesmer nerf but with odd suggestions like hide the numbers and such. Funkopotomis 04:32, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
I dont flag much, or play GW much anymore, but would shield bash be suitable as a variant? :3 Jebus 18:46, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Item tbh... Frostysig9000FrostytheAdmin 18:47, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
t'would still work but be rather annoying. Godbox 19:18, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
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