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600/smite to get to fury and perma to blow him up with mass titan agro is hawt. Life Guardian 04:12, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Yea its super easy. BuH makes rooms 1-4 only take 7 min. my record time was 23:18 with this build. --DoA Master 20:57, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
How is 30 mins a speed clear? Andy 22:46, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Have you ever done foundry 600/smite or Cryway or Manlyway? It takes atleast 45 min for a standard 600/smite to complete it, and it takes around 30 for cryway and manlyway. This catchs 600/smite up with cryway. This also leaves room for 4 people you can run, etc. --DoA Master 00:21, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Takes 30 minutes cryway? You for srs? You do realize icU could do ALL of doa in 34 minutes(well, used to be able to). Manlyway can do it faster than 30 too. Life Guardian 00:31, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Ehrm... Foundry with Manlyway takes like 10 min. Ironboot× 18:06, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
I have been in shit manlyway ally groups then. --DoA Master 19:50, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Manly way also needs more humans. This variant can be done with only 2 and 2 heroes. (not best for drops of course). Smiter (without BuH) and Ranger can be microed by perma. --Bulldozer1 Captain Bulldozer Don't TELL me that you're right... prove it. 20:00, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I don't think 'speed clear' has appropriate placing in this build name. More like 4 man foundry. AthrunAthrun SigFeya 15:59, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Perma Bar

Why not drop GolE, have the ranger put Balthazar's spirit and Succor on Perma, making room for "BUH!". Should speed things up a bit, no? --Bulldozer1 Captain Bulldozer Don't TELL me that you're right... prove it. 18:46, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Because the perma shouldn't be taking damage unless it's HM.--72.189.84.187 18:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Was that a joke? Of course its HM. Why do it otherwise? --Bulldozer1 Captain Bulldozer Don't TELL me that you're right... prove it. 19:26, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Perma has lb sig, does he even need gole? i vote just mainbar BUH! and have the ranger maintain succor. Also, how does the perma fair vs derv titans w/o bonds?--TahiriVeila 19:32, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Short answer.... he doesn't? :) I'd be concerned about the Fury using Double Dragon when the Perma is around as well. Though, with good timing (and maybe a pre prot) the Fury should be dead before getting to use it more than once. --Bulldozer1 Captain Bulldozer Don't TELL me that you're right... prove it. 19:36, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Ok I'm going to put BuH in the bar. I agree with the GoLE removal. And there is a certain way to pull so you sliver the fury without ever getting hit by DD. You just stand around 5 steps away or so, but you have PS on you when you run in from the 600 so there is no problem. --DoA Master 19:49, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
After you kill the fury do you bother clearing out all the mobs with the 600? I haven't done 3-man foundry since back before ursan. But we used to clear out EVERYTHING in foundry for mad titan drops. Would like 3-4 each per run--TahiriVeila 19:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
You kill everything except for the captain spawns before the Fury. --DoA Master 20:10, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Kk kewl, was just curious cuz SC doesn't bother killing a lot of stuff
Which is why this is so cool. Manlyway or Cryway don't kill pretty much anything in the 5th room, and this kills everything in the time Cryway does the area without killing anything in the 5th room in the same time or so. --DoA Master 17:04, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Glyph + DP

Are they necessary? You have QZ so why not drop them, bring GoLE for added energy management and another damage spell?--TahiriVeila 14:16, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Not a bad idea... but the ranger will have to be on his toes to keep the spirits in range.... the perma is gonna have to do some running around. I used to do Gloom with a QZ to speed things up, so I know the concept can work just fine. Bulldozer1 Captain Bulldozer Don't TELL me that you're right... prove it. 15:26, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Tested. ups. Have fun running. --DoA Master 00:38, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

you dont even need the perma, i can tank fury without one, just take a bit longer, also this build can do all of City so id add that to the title?

Positioning?

I attempting this with heroes and am having problems with the second (tiny) room. The spawns seem to be random, sometimes they are on the far right, sometimes the far left, sometimes in the middle. I find that my heroes, wherever I flag them to stand, catch aggro and get pasted. Anyone got any tips? The description in the article (stand in the far right lower corner) is ambiguous and from my experience there is no safe position. TIA RuudVanPistolrooy 12:21, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

They have to stand in the back corner either where you enter or the corner at the next area. The spawn is random, so it's pretty much chance whether they spawn on the group or not. Also they need to be on Avoid :<--Relyk talk 21:10, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
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