Don't people usually run triple stances on Earthshaker? --Edru viransu//QQ about me 23:14, 26 July 2007 (CEST)
Not balanced. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 23:33, 26 July 2007 (CEST)
- Indeed. No real split capabilities. It has a tiny bit of offensive split with the SP sin, but if it tries to split, even an SoR flagger can kill it. It has some defensive split capability with the flagger, but it's going to have a lot of trouble holding against a two or three person gank, particularly one with a ranger and a warrior. Can't really spike very well. Can't even shutdown LoD decently. It's both inflexible and pretty weak-looking(by which I mean, it's weak, but with the current state of the game, people might actually lose to it). --Edru viransu//QQ about me 23:48, 26 July 2007 (CEST)
i took it off obs mode =) i know shit about gvg change it for meh — RAWR! Skakid9090 00:09, 27 July 2007 (CEST)
Change the SoD for RC. SoD is for people who are unable to see into the future. Use guardian, it iz gud. Kill the BoA. Unless you run 2, no point. This is meta foo, not hexway. Get a B-Surge with Wards, and a BA Ranger. Where is teh IoR? Tis gud. Would switch prot fpr SB on the infuse. Just my pref tho :P. Also would kill MT on your flagger, for Dismiss. It iz gud for splitting. Could also put guardian in there, if you want :P. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:28, 27 July 2007 (CEST)
you should check my build box m8, there r gud builds :).
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Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:39, 27 July 2007 (CEST)
- Migraine's less amazing when they can actually afford to convert/purge it because you don't have a hex stack on every physical in their build simultaneously. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 02:36, 27 July 2007 (CEST)
- True, hopefully your ranger is good enough to int purge tho. I used to know this guy who could literally int 3/4's constantly. He was r gud. No play no moar :(. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 02:40, 27 July 2007 (CEST)
i just want a build liek this so newer players could come, fill in the roles, and get going quick. — RAWR! Skakid9090 03:15, 27 July 2007 (CEST)
- Get team builder, and I will show you a lot of old good builds (Well maybe not a lot, and perhaps not even very old :/) when I get er back. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 03:16, 27 July 2007 (CEST)
- Migraine is not in balanced builds, only hex builds. MoR mesmer would be balanced. BCTurk 05:02, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
Updating
Like on the HB Balanced page, when the meta shifts, don't remove the builds that were once popular, archive them somewhere, so that we can more thoroughly document the GvG meta. - 
Krowman {{sysop}} 08:38, 27 July 2007 (CEST)
- Like, [[Build:Team - GvG Balanced ([year][month]-[year][month]]) or in Build:Team - GvG Balanced/Archive 1? —ǥȓɩηɔɧ〚₮/ḉ〛 20:50, 27 July 2007 (CEST)
- I think this would be somewhat hard to document because there is no set meta balanced really ever in GvG. The general team composition of balanced may stay the same, but the actual bars and even sometimes entire positions are highly debatable as to what is "meta" and what isn't. Just my 2c BCTurk 05:02, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
Sin?
Sp/TS, and/or sins in general dont find their way on Gvg too much, nto even balanced... i think, not sure. Might be totally wrong but w/e Dark0805|Rant 02:38, 4 August 2007 (CEST)
- They're one of the most popular dedicated ganks and I think Reno was owning face with a dual sin hex build a while ago. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 02:40, 4 August 2007 (CEST)
- Yes, renoway is still popular in the meta for mid to low level gvg, but it is very far from balanced, in fact any balanced team does not have a sin. BCTurk 03:04, 4 August 2007 (CEST)
- Sp/TS as a gank??? Or did you just mean sin? I've ganked with mobiues breeze of course, that build owns for gank.Dark0805|Rant 03:53, 4 August 2007 (CEST)
- Yes actually, Sp/TS with recall and a Moebius breeze sin gank together in renoway. The SP with recall can also gank along, just slower obviously. BCTurk 04:13, 4 August 2007 (CEST)
- I have run this:
- Yes actually, Sp/TS with recall and a Moebius breeze sin gank together in renoway. The SP with recall can also gank along, just slower obviously. BCTurk 04:13, 4 August 2007 (CEST)
- Sp/TS as a gank??? Or did you just mean sin? I've ganked with mobiues breeze of course, that build owns for gank.Dark0805|Rant 03:53, 4 August 2007 (CEST)
- Yes, renoway is still popular in the meta for mid to low level gvg, but it is very far from balanced, in fact any balanced team does not have a sin. BCTurk 03:04, 4 August 2007 (CEST)
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Gud for teh gank/split. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 17:54, 4 August 2007 (CEST)
- The main variants are as follow
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Better teams also drop recall for TS and use the top bar because they can live without the safety line of recall. BCTurk 18:26, 4 August 2007 (CEST)
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=better ganker imo. though 2 shadow steps is preference depending on scaredyness of team running it. Mending touch is amazing if you are gonna solo gank. Though i find you need to drop critical strikes on a solo ganker to get a full 8 sec restful.Dark0805|Rant 04:26, 5 August 2007 (CEST)
- O.o...err. No comment. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 05:34, 5 August 2007 (CEST)
- If you can't survive on a gank with just SW/Dash, and you think you need Recall as well, you shouldn't be ganking TBH BCTurk 09:56, 5 August 2007 (CEST)
- I dont use both lol.
- If you can't survive on a gank with just SW/Dash, and you think you need Recall as well, you shouldn't be ganking TBH BCTurk 09:56, 5 August 2007 (CEST)
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w/e one floats your boat lol. i just didnt want someone saying why not recall.Dark0805|Rant 02:05, 6 August 2007 (CEST)
Counters - Koreans. LMFAO. Nice job ;)
Derv
Derv with few enchantments and Crippling Sweep can do better Conjure Cripslash. Much more survivability. Snow Phoenix 03:38, 8 August 2007 (CEST)
- c-cripslashes are used very widely by a lot of top guilds. —The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Skakid9090. 03:40, 8 August 2007 (CEST)
Crippling on a derv is no good. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 03:54, 8 August 2007 (CEST)
GvG builds
A balanced GvG build on this wiki? Is this really necessary? — Rapta 
(talk|contribs) 08:07, 8 August 2007 (CEST)
- Yes, but this isn't it. If there isn't any objections, I will change it later today to a balanced. BCTurk 15:17, 8 August 2007 (CEST)
- Keep this one but change its name to Eurohex. Add a separate meta balanced build. EDIT: I just changed the name. I Noob I 21:31, 9 August 2007 (CEST)
- someone change to balanced -_- i don't GvG since the release of NF. —The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Skakid9090. 03:01, 10 August 2007 (CEST)
Not balanced
- Image:Balanced GvG Meta.jpg
Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 21:01, 9 August 2007 (CEST)
- And WHO was it that got you started on teambuilder again? i think i might have met him before, he's a pretty cool guy. btw LMFAO at the counters. funny thing is that it's true, koreans always lag me out during a match and it gets really annoying. its like they have psychic mind powers to totally spam out your vent while spiking u at the same time.—
Cheese Slaya (Talk) 22:01, 9 August 2007 (CEST)
- Readem's exactly right on that one. That is the current balanced build. - Krowman {{sysop}} 02:39, 15 August 2007 (CEST)
- I know...I iwas just saying that just cheesey nubsicle I know got readem to start using teambuilder and look what happened:D— Cheese Slaya (Talk) 04:16, 15 August 2007 (CEST)
- I know...I iwas just saying that just cheesey nubsicle I know got readem to start using teambuilder and look what happened:D—
- Readem's exactly right on that one. That is the current balanced build. -
Koreans.
lol that is the most funniest counter ive ever seen. --Hellbringer 02:55, 10 August 2007 (CEST)
That is the counter to everything then ;/. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 03:03, 10 August 2007 (CEST)
anyways nice build. --Hellbringer 03:25, 10 August 2007 (CEST)
ZOMG nerf. Is this still imba? --Edru viransu//QQ about me 03:29, 10 August 2007 (CEST)
Still usable, the nerfed builds just take more skill to play, with less fire and forget hexes. Tycn 15:19, 10 August 2007 (CEST)
Im thinking you may want a bit more splitability on one of the warriors in case you are being out-ganked.... 
Ni 04:25, 15 August 2007 (CEST)