Archive talk:Team - GvG MB Pressure

From Myspace To Your Place [ganK] :> Outpressure people and create spikes with Liquid Flame. -- 18:01, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

You mean Dead Hour Ladder Farmers [GanK]? 86.133.147.88 18:04, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

If they're Euro, yes. -- 18:06, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Obaby, we do strong farm with this :> --Crowels[슴Mc슴]Mootles 18:06, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

However, how we win I don't know, the build is stupid and terrible --Crowels[슴Mc슴]Mootles 18:07, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Like dum nob GanK leader? 86.133.147.88 18:07, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

lol, saw you last night playing it crow. didn't you run bloodspike the night before? and it actually does farm nobs so... even at rank 35# -- 18:09, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't think they b spiked in it, not sure though since I'm not in GanK anymore anyway, he just asks me to come everytime they play. --Crowels[슴Mc슴]Mootles 18:10, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

ahhh couldve sworn i saw you guys bspike -- 18:11, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

vote ngrs -- 01:37, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

vote moar -- 15:34, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Should

there be 6 of the MB eles and one of them switch out a skill for Flame Djinn's Haste for even more pressure? I think this can wipe people fast enough that you shouldn't need the extra defense from the E/Rt and that the extra ele can split off fast enough with FDH and when it comes back can help even more. I don't think a straight up flagger is necessary here. -- 15:22, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

c/d? -- 12:12, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Ehm what about taking away one /ME for a Ward Against Melee/Foes? Suppose it helps your monk a little:) Massive 16:42, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah hold up, I ran this for about 5 hours last night. I got some additions to make to this including the speed boost, it basically necessary because your spikes will go for nothing if they keep getting morale anyway. Also res sigs need to be recharged so flags need to be capped. FDH is also good for spliting. -- 18:46, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Alright I made some changes. I removed the Prism runner because it isn't needed tbh. I takes away from the spiking power, all you need is one of the FBH eles to split back and grab the flag since you'll mostly be spiking at stand and flag won't be too far away. That way they are at least useful when spiking at the stand. I ran this for so long last night and basically won all night with this minus the ward ele. -- 18:57, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Can we get some votes on this now? -- 22:40, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Wow

This is so lame... If this starts popping up I'm gonna expect a nerf to MB or something...--Ikimono"a rabid grizzly bear" 23:45, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

I run this at crange pretty often recently. Taking out the runner is a dumb idea. 82.26.19.112 00:25, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, very lame I agree but tears shit up none the less. And I tried this with a dedicated runner and tbh it's just awkward. It takes away from the spike damage and flagstand pressure and the FDH ele can run the flag just fine from my experience as long as you pay attention to the morale boost countdown. -- 00:37, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Without a runner you'll be split all of the time and every single time you will have to collapse on them, as you don't have a flagger. You don't need more damage as you have 5 mind blast eles. You'll collapse really, really fast without a party heal. I mean, it works, but a flagger is much better. Reunion 00:55, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Not really, you can call spikes every 4 or 5 seconds. You should be taking someone down each spike which relieves most of the pressure right there if you can get clean spikes which is pretty easy to do with this. -- 01:33, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Taking down people every 4 or 5 seconds against terrible players, maybe. The only point of mine you even tried to counter there was the fact you might get outpressured. Reunion 01:36, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I'll add the flagger back. Doesn't mean thats what i have to run when i play. -- 01:56, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Of course it doesn't. No one even suggested that. Running good builds sort of helps at progressing however. Reunion 01:58, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I like Reunion :P. His use of words to make other people fell emasculated makes me happy. Life 02:01, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I'll emasculate you if you aren't careful. Reunion 02:03, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Rawr. Life 02:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

:P Reunion 02:07, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I know, maybe I need to do a little more experimenting first but currently this is what I like best for this build. -- 04:50, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

vote -- 17:45, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Superior Fire Magic

makes shit die faster. ··· Danny Does Drugs 19:04, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

also, couldn't you turn this into a split build? run dual WoH and split into two TA teams, basically? ··· Danny Does Drugs 19:06, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Ehh if they split you just send an RC back to base with a few eles or both monks if needed. The eles themselves have enough survivability to split and clear the other base themselves. RC is nice, we tried dual WoH a few times but conditions get overwhelming. And yeah, i guess +3 fire could work if necessary. -- 21:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Never +3, +1 so MB hits under SB FrostytheAdmin 22:39, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

mmmk thats what i was thinking too, but i figured danny knows more than the brave angelus (which he probably does still) so i added the +3. -- 22:52, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I forgot about SB in GvG. =p I only ever run MB in TA. ··· Danny Does Drugs 02:32, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

be moar brave then plz :D -- 02:33, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Bravery would be running sups and dual woh, and being gigantic split faggots. :3 ··· Danny Does Drugs 02:41, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Which this can do, without either of those -- 02:44, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Still not as strong tbh. Needs augury on at least one monk, imo. Augury + Dark Escape + Heart of Shadow. :3 ··· Danny Does Drugs 14:09, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

The spike kills by itself, augury isnt needed -- 20:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Not if you're on a split. :< ··· Danny Does Drugs 20:48, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually it does, if they split back only one monk you should be able to spike it down if you have 3 or more eles. One uses Meteor and the other two follow with rodgorts and then pressure it till it dies which it inevitably will. obviously if they send both monks back you can gtfo and meet back at stand err whatever. -- 00:33, 29 May 2009 (UTC)