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Why don't one of the spikers spike with mind wrack? the target will already be hexed and as long as it gets put up a little before the other spikers thats an extra ~140 damage or so.[[Special:Contributions/75.80.128.65|75.80.128.65]] 19:24, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
 
Why don't one of the spikers spike with mind wrack? the target will already be hexed and as long as it gets put up a little before the other spikers thats an extra ~140 damage or so.[[Special:Contributions/75.80.128.65|75.80.128.65]] 19:24, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
 
:It works only for YOUR mesmer skills, so it's only ~25 more dmg --[[User:GothicNeko|GothicNeko]] 16:59, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
 
:It works only for YOUR mesmer skills, so it's only ~25 more dmg --[[User:GothicNeko|GothicNeko]] 16:59, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
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==Viable==
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Post wastrel's nerf? <span style="font-family:fantasy;border-top:3px dotted #AAAA99;">[[User:Life Guardian|<span style="color:#AAAAAA;">Life</span>]]&nbsp;[[User_talk:Life Guardian|<span style="color:#006699;">Guardian</span>]]</span> 03:09, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
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:Replace wastrel's with overload. Spike becomes more potent at the cost of 2s more downtime than pre-nerf. Continue spiking shit. At least that's what borat and nick plan to do in [cFs]. Also, mesmers are supposed to run sups and one of the mesmers is supposed to have snares but i can't remember the exact bars.--Jake[[Special:Contributions/89.145.83.41|89.145.83.41]] 04:32, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
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::lol @ sups. This does more than enough damage, and now that we're using Overload it has the potential to do even moar. Minors would be as far as I would go, and that's still pretty stupid. The snares and Arcane Larceny/Thievery are variant builds (scroll up).[[User:Rikk Panda|<font color="Orange" size="2px">Rikk Panda</font>]] [[User talk:Rikk Panda|<font color="red" size="1px">{a.k.a. Benny Lava}</font>]][[Image:They're_On_Fire_Panda.jpg|19px]] 06:00, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
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==Rename==
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to GvG Overload Spike seeing as how it uses Overload. I'll add variant mesmers when I get home, and then i'll become lazy again -.-' thx [[User:Rikk Panda|<font color="Orange" size="2px">Rikk Panda</font>]] [[User talk:Rikk Panda|<font color="red" size="1px">{a.k.a. Benny Lava}</font>]][[Image:They're_On_Fire_Panda.jpg|19px]] 06:14, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
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:Why don't you just call it Mes Spike..?
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:: 1) sign comments w/ 4 tildes 2) Because that's not what it's called? [[User:Rikk Panda|<font color="Orange" size="2px">Rikk Panda</font>]] [[User talk:Rikk Panda|<font color="red" size="1px">{a.k.a. Benny Lava}</font>]][[Image:They're_On_Fire_Panda.jpg|19px]] 21:27, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
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== New Team Build ==
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All guild now run 8 Me/X with 1 ME/A 5 Me/Mo and 2 Me/P can someone change builds? (i don't have those)--[[Special:Contributions/81.249.188.245|81.249.188.245]] 02:52, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
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:whoru? B/c no one is doing that.--[[User:TahiriVeila|TahiriVeila]] 05:51, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
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I just ran 8x mesmer and it only works if your team is experienced (wins/losses were spontaneous). Also, it's kind of dumb considering 8 mesmers is complete overkill. We then ran 7 mesmers and a monk, which worked better but it's also overkill and harder to split. Ultimately 6 mesmers is the best configuration, running Superior Runes if you're manly or Minors if you're coordinated like robots. You can run two /P but it's kind of redundant and the only advantage is maintainable Stand Your Ground. Good Tactics ran basically this exact build and they managed to flawless a couple of matches before switching back to balance. So out of everything i've seen this seems to be the most efficient. [[User:Rikk Panda|<font color="Orange" size="2px">Rikk Panda</font>]] [[User talk:Rikk Panda|<font color="red" size="1px">{a.k.a. Benny Lava}</font>]][[Image:They're_On_Fire_Panda.jpg|19px]] 06:43, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
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==SoD==
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Obs says we should use this. Guardian and SoD make warriors rage >< [[User:Rikk Panda|<font color="Orange" size="2px">Rikk Panda</font>]] [[User talk:Rikk Panda|<font color="red" size="1px">{a.k.a. Benny Lava}</font>]][[Image:They're_On_Fire_Panda.jpg|19px]] 06:43, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
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:SoD is just the thing this needs to be moar lame. <span style="font-family:fantasy;border-top:3px dotted #AAAA99;">[[User:Life Guardian|<span style="color:#AAAAAA;">Life</span>]]&nbsp;[[User_talk:Life Guardian|<span style="color:#006699;">Guardian</span>]]</span> 06:47, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
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==update==
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dead as hell. no way this shouldn't be archived. shame. [[User:MrMetalFLower|<font size=1>'''MrMetal'''</font>]][[User talk:MrMetalFLower|<font size=1><font colour="pink">FLower</font></font>]][[Image:Mmf_ohno_sig.jpg|60px]] 22:50, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
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:Wow, that was fken fast.--[[User:Bio.|Bio.]] 23:16, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
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:: Holy fast nerf, batman[[User:Rikk Panda|<font color="Orange" size="2px">Rikk Panda</font>]] [[User talk:Rikk Panda|<font color="red" size="1px">{a.k.a. Benny Lava}</font>]][[Image:They're_On_Fire_Panda.jpg|19px]] 02:38, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 19:53, September 1, 2010

gogo write it up Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava} They&#039;re On Fire Panda 03:24, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

FOIN. Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava} They&#039;re On Fire Panda 03:41, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Great for zquests, champ points, tourny points, double weekends, and any other miscellaneous lolery. Also: any suggestions are welcome; this what I can grab from obs Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava} They&#039;re On Fire Panda 03:41, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

I understand this is just from obs but wouldn't overload be a better choice than wastrel's? Both have the same unconditional damage but overload seems to have a better payoff if conditions are met. 66.66.172.108 19:51, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah it would work, it just adds 4 more seconds in between spikes Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava} They&#039;re On Fire Panda 21:18, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

Testing...Edit

Ok so apparently someone randomly put this into testing... there's still some variants that can be stuck in here. For instance you can drop 2 of the Me/Mo for

  • Me/E
Spiritual Pain Wastrel&#039;s Demise Unnatural Signet Glyph of Lesser Energy Crippling Anguish Kitah&#039;s Burden Ethereal Burden Resurrection Signet
  • Me/Rt
Spiritual Pain Wastrel&#039;s Demise Unnatural Signet Echo Arcane Larceny Arcane Thievery Shame Resurrection Signet

and of course you have to switch around skills if you take that route. Furthermore, you can drop the Me/E (or a Me/Mo) and run 2 Me/A, again needing skill adjustment. This is just a template though, and you can switch up the mesmers' skills (interrupts, etc.) Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava} They&#039;re On Fire Panda 01:57, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Tbh Edit

Take away the WoH Mes and put in something more useful, like another LoD for more anti-spike or maybe a Rupter. I believe the healers can cover the healing.--Syncretic 15:19, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

1)a 3rd LoD would be less anti-spike, and more anti-pressure. 2) easier said than done; healing a team of 8 squishies is harder to do than you would think Rikk Panda 16:28, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
sorry, meant pressure. and you're probably right.--Syncretic 16:32, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Meta? Edit

[ViP] and [cFs] have been wreaking a bit of havok with both variations. eh? 72.148.243.147 23:25, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

I played vs this team and 3/6 Mesmers died to knights. -Extreme Zer0 18:11, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
That reason holds no merit because it's based on player skill. And yeah, [ViP] alone went from r80's to r30's running only this spike because it works. plain and simple Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava} They&#039;re On Fire Panda 01:10, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
Going from rank 80 to rank 30 is an almost impossible feat. --Crow 02:41, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
Never said it was hard, I just said it happened with this and variations of this build. Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava} They&#039;re On Fire Panda 09:06, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
My point was going from rank 80 to 30 doesn't require a brilliant build. --Crow 14:31, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
You're absolutely correct. It doesn't. And this isn't a brilliant build. There's nothing brilliant about a 3-2-1 1->2 spike, but then again I guess that's why it's so capable. Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava} They&#039;re On Fire Panda 22:53, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
wat --Crow 00:22, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Mind Wrack? Edit

Why don't one of the spikers spike with mind wrack? the target will already be hexed and as long as it gets put up a little before the other spikers thats an extra ~140 damage or so.75.80.128.65 19:24, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

It works only for YOUR mesmer skills, so it's only ~25 more dmg --GothicNeko 16:59, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

ViableEdit

Post wastrel's nerf? Life Guardian 03:09, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Replace wastrel's with overload. Spike becomes more potent at the cost of 2s more downtime than pre-nerf. Continue spiking shit. At least that's what borat and nick plan to do in [cFs]. Also, mesmers are supposed to run sups and one of the mesmers is supposed to have snares but i can't remember the exact bars.--Jake89.145.83.41 04:32, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
lol @ sups. This does more than enough damage, and now that we're using Overload it has the potential to do even moar. Minors would be as far as I would go, and that's still pretty stupid. The snares and Arcane Larceny/Thievery are variant builds (scroll up).Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava}They&#039;re On Fire Panda 06:00, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

RenameEdit

to GvG Overload Spike seeing as how it uses Overload. I'll add variant mesmers when I get home, and then i'll become lazy again -.-' thx Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava}They&#039;re On Fire Panda 06:14, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Why don't you just call it Mes Spike..?
1) sign comments w/ 4 tildes 2) Because that's not what it's called? Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava}They&#039;re On Fire Panda 21:27, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

New Team Build Edit

All guild now run 8 Me/X with 1 ME/A 5 Me/Mo and 2 Me/P can someone change builds? (i don't have those)--81.249.188.245 02:52, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

whoru? B/c no one is doing that.--TahiriVeila 05:51, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

I just ran 8x mesmer and it only works if your team is experienced (wins/losses were spontaneous). Also, it's kind of dumb considering 8 mesmers is complete overkill. We then ran 7 mesmers and a monk, which worked better but it's also overkill and harder to split. Ultimately 6 mesmers is the best configuration, running Superior Runes if you're manly or Minors if you're coordinated like robots. You can run two /P but it's kind of redundant and the only advantage is maintainable Stand Your Ground. Good Tactics ran basically this exact build and they managed to flawless a couple of matches before switching back to balance. So out of everything i've seen this seems to be the most efficient. Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava}They&#039;re On Fire Panda 06:43, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

SoDEdit

Obs says we should use this. Guardian and SoD make warriors rage >< Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava}They&#039;re On Fire Panda 06:43, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

SoD is just the thing this needs to be moar lame. Life Guardian 06:47, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

updateEdit

dead as hell. no way this shouldn't be archived. shame. MrMetalFLowerMmf ohno sig 22:50, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, that was fken fast.--Bio. 23:16, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
Holy fast nerf, batmanRikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava}They&#039;re On Fire Panda 02:38, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
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