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Roll with honour. --Frosty Frostcharge 17:24, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

dont we have one of these? if not could you say which classes split with which? more usage would be nice.--Bluetapeboy 21:42, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
Hence the trial tag, it isn't a dedicated split, but all of the chars have splitability (hence for example Sprint on the cripslash). --Frosty Frostcharge 22:26, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
run trip war with a smiter instead of the moi. thats what i play at least --Angelus 22:30, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
a better reason to not run it then to run it. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk • contribs) (UTC). 22:40, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
i like the addition of the smiter to the trip war build --Angelus 22:41, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
so you have more stand pressure but will definetely lose to any split build... --Frosty Frostcharge 22:43, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
sending a cripshot, axe, and flagger isn't enough? zzz. two warriors can do some good damage at main team with the smiter keeping perma scourge and being able to keep warriors clean. and another warrior and a ranger and a flagger is enough to collapse on a split. --Angelus 22:47, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
If you are sending your flagger, you will inevitabely have a warrior running the flag, which means in your scenario you would have a warrior and a smiter at the stand which won't do shit, MoI is fucking rediculous stand spike support as well as defence, and when it comes to pushing, falling back, etc in this massive split meta it's essential. --Frosty Frostcharge 22:52, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
depending on how much they push their split, you may not even have to send a warrior and ranger. usually a ranger and flagger and deal with shit just fine depending on if theyre running gay me/mo split. --Angelus 22:57, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
It doesn't matter how much they push their split, MoI in this meta > a smiter hands down. --Frosty Frostcharge 23:00, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
bleh w/e. ill keep running my smiter and winning. --Angelus 23:05, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
At r500. --Crow 23:08, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
gah crow ec'd me on it. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk • contribs) (UTC). 23:09, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
crow im not quite that bad anymore ;) --Angelus 23:12, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
Your opinion is important. --71.229 23:13, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
just because the guild i was in isn't on ladder doesn't mean i dont play r200 at least. --Angelus 00:28, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

But anyway, back on topic. I like trip warrior and it works well --Angelus 00:28, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I know I'll be flamed hard, but what about a chaaaaaarge! axe over the dev hammer, maybe even some blackout action on the mel shot? If the goal is fun anyway :) - Zero.Six Z123 01:16, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

if the point was fun no one would play guild wars at all. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk • contribs) (UTC). 01:42, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
Paint drying is slightly more fun. --Frosty Frostcharge 01:57, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
and thats being generous. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk • contribs) (UTC). 02:35, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

i like the consept. but i htink monks should go HA backline. idk im not a big gvger and i think ele should go Prism. glyph isnt guna do it all plus u could have deep freeze or somethin if u really want a snare-

you should stick to HA then, because your suggestions wont be viable in gvg. --Angelus 06:01, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
With suggestions like those he should stick to pve.--TahiriVeila 07:25, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Update

Seeing as not many teams are splitting again, this could go back to one of it's old version with 2 PR's, 1 Dev Hammer, Cripshot (ty buff) and Cruel Spear:


Dismember Shock Primal Rage Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Dismember Shock Primal Rage Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Devastating Hammer Protector's Strike Death Pact Signet Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Crippling Shot Mending Touch Apply Poison Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Cruel Spear Strip Enchantment Anthem of Weariness Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Restore Condition Balanced Stance Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Word of Healing Disciplined Stance Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Icy Shackles Protective Was Kaolai Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional


So c/d? --Frosty Frostcharge 10:43, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

d, most trip wars i've been seeing run either two axe + sword, or axe/hammer sword. Usually with cripshot + LoD/MeE/ERt in the midline--TahiriVeila 16:12, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

see you niggers, i said add a smiter originally. --Angelus 15:13, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Only reason for the smiter is because there is like no split play in laddar atm and cripshot puff means you can drop a me/e or e/rt for a smite. lp --Frosty Frostcharge 15:14, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
thanks captain obvious. could have ran cripshot before the buff anyway though --Angelus 15:16, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
Yea but now cripshot can pretty much perma snare somebody since it's practically undodgable, meaning you don't need that snare ele/mesmer, also, not much splitting happening... --Frosty Frostcharge 15:19, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
good meta ^_______^ --Angelus 15:21, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
Maybe not in ladder play, but ATs still see a fair amount of split ( which is why you're seeing not a lot of lod smite and a LOT of dom mes/ert still)--TahiriVeila 16:28, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
*takes out obvious journal to learn*. Gringo 18:34, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
do u think that pr will still be used even after its 4 adren nerf? i think it might still be a decent skill if not well shock axe and whirling still work. Trapping Moons Love 17:36, February 23, 2010 (UTC)
Won't be worth since it'll be up halftime at best, more often less b/c you'll have to cancel. Evisc + whirling for axes most like.--TahiriVeila 19:15, February 23, 2010 (UTC)
i want to give it a shot with the adrenaline, but yeah im pretty sure evis whirling will become the new meta, probably evis>whirling because of the bigger dmg. but pr seems like it is still worth giving it a shot anyways. Trapping Moons Love 20:44, February 23, 2010 (UTC)
you cant build the adrenaline until the 15s is up, so its 15s + 4 hits to recharge, its gonna be badbad. Gringo 20:50, February 23, 2010 (UTC)
Lead the way! Terran 21:07, February 23, 2010 (UTC)
hammer warriors! Gringo 21:10, February 23, 2010 (UTC)
I think RaO thumpers will be the new meta. --Brandnew 00:18, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
naw i think there just going to use evis/whirling, and a hammer/sword. but RaO could make a comback. Trapping Moons Love 16:38, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
lol @ taking that seriously --Angelus 16:42, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
Life Sheath Terran 22:06, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Not really run but whatever

Whirling Axe Shock Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Coward "Fear Me!" Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Devastating Hammer Death Pact Signet Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Crippling Shot Mending Touch Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Empathic Removal Flesh of My Flesh Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Word of Healing Disciplined Stance Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Restore Condition Balanced Stance Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Healer's Boon Storm Djinn's Haste Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional

c/d? --Steamy..x 16:29, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

congrats, you switched out some warrior bars for different warrior bars and changed the flagger. --Angelus 16:38, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Update/Unarchive to counter the mesmer shitter meta

Since everyone knows how to counter mesmers, hit them hard with your axe/hammer


Eviscerate Shock Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Devastating Hammer Death's Charge Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Devastating Hammer Death Pact Signet Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Crippling Shot Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Blinding Surge Hex Breaker Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Restore Condition Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Word of Healing Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Icy Shackles Healer's Boon Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional


That's what MBP ran and it worked pretty good. Also, it's Trip War. --Frosty Frostcharge 14:12, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Just make it optional midline tbh, I only obs'd 2 of their games, 1 was bsurge 1 was MoI and both rolled the other team in like 10 mins or something. Theres plenty of midliners that would work, but yeah, unarchive. --Steamy..x 16:22, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
its quite good for this meta, you should make it with bsurge as main, and MoI as backup for splitty maps (frozen) Gringo 16:52, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
I'm bored, want me to write up? --Steamy..x 17:22, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
Actually they used water snares on a bsurge, it was never moi. atleast when i watchedUnreal sig 1Cute mc puppies 02:42, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
And overbearing smash over prot strike--GWPirate 11:21, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
wat--Oskar 11:52, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

optional

the midline caster role should be open. you could have a mo/n smiter, moi (less common in trip warrior but still), OoB barbed signet life siphon necro, or bsurge. theres reallya LOT of midline caster options. discuss --Angelus 23:13, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah the Mo/N smiter was run by at least 2 different guilds today. [ace] beat [GoLd] with it ([GoLd] was running lolnecroes but still). Also, mesmer works too. Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava} They're On Fire Panda 04:09, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
You can run w/e you want. I just listed the oob bar b/c it's most common and usually the most effective (unless you know you're going up against the same build with a necro). Go ahead and list smiter if you want idrc--TahiriVeila 06:36, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
Might as well minibar a magebane variant too. And added equip/usages. Cheers--TahiriVeila 06:37, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

This considered Trip War?

Eviscerate Shock Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Devastating Hammer Crushing Blow Wild Throw Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Devastating Hammer Crushing Blow Death Pact Signet Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Magebane Shot Apply Poison Mending Touch Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Cruel Spear Vicious Attack Power Lock Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Word of Healing Disciplined Stance Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Restore Condition Balanced Stance Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Healer's Boon Storm Djinn's Haste Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional


Too wiki illiterate to know when to just add a build-variant option and when to open a new build page though. I'll leave this to the experts. Run by [word] on Burning over [MBP] for a win. Why settle for DW just on spike? 72.148.243.147 04:40, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

This is an old school trip war (look up the page where I suggested). It is trip war, but a very manly trip war! Frosty 08:50, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Necro elite

What about charge and 2 axe or axe / crip / dev ? Zero.Six 07:37, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Bad idea. --Lemming 08:14, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
Crash & burn :( Zero.Six 19:54, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

zz

I'd like to add another frontline template as a variant, but since it can go in place of any of the three melees, what would be the best place to put it? Listing it as a variant of all three melee slots seems redundant. --Lemming 21:07, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say just list it after the third melee bar with a title along the lines of "Optionalo Frontliner" and make it clear that it can be used to replace any of the three wars.--TahiriVeila 22:44, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

masochism

Why? skakid9090 19:24, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

I suppose for energy management since it has sac skills? --Toraen 19:49, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Massive emanagement from dark pact spam--TahiriVeila 19:51, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
It's still got the old version and not the pve version if you didn't know. Frosty 00:52, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
thanks frosty skakid9090 22:19, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
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