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If you cant beat it, join it rite frosty? :> --Steamy..x 16:20, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good i guess, i don't do HA alot but it looks good to me. --Sjoerdmastah 16:34, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah it provides a lot of pressure in crowded places like most HA maps, condition spread and anti melee will bring the other team down! Tyrael--(Talk) 16:43, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
Frosty, I admit, I <3 Fragility spam. But maybe a virulence??? Just a question ;) Shadow Form Slayer 18:05, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
Well, it would be decent bar compression over toxic chill but.. its toxic chill :D --Steamy..x 18:13, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
Virulence would add disease but aside from that you already have weakness and Toxic Chill does poison + decent damage. And yes Jax, fucking so lame to play, hi Blind everyone. --Frosty Frostcharge 18:23, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
Having b flash on a bsurge is pretty fucking funny :> --Steamy..x 19:38, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
And also the least honoUrable thing i've ever seen :( Brandnew 07:22, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
A/D / D/E, same difference --Frosty Frostcharge 12:03, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

I have actually seen something like this being run, but with an A/D rather than a D/E, and iirc a couple of other things different. Widow maker 11:07, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Well... yeah. Loads of people run this shit, gotta say i've never seen it with an a/d though, only D/E or more commonly R/D. Tox Chill is kinda meh too, most people run a fire ele or taint or BA ranger. Rawrawr Dinosaur 17:45, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
I saw a Cripslash bar w/ this.--XAM 08:27, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Looks really similar to Build:Team - Cubzway tbh except Frosty's is written up nicer and the BSurge is a little different. --Polydorus 18:43, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

And this can keep LS down for the entire game which is good--Steamy..x 18:09, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
A little late but yeah. That among other factors is why the other build is getting deleted.--Polydorus 04:02, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Burning arrow or cripshot combo

think i would pick ba over vor or toxic. or take fire ele + crip shot instead of vor and toxic

taking out the VoR mes is absurdly stupid. Also removing the Tox Chill would cause you to lose a source of weakness and a helpful enchantment that fuels the dervish.

necro lc ?

I haven't seen LC nec playing in frag spike cause there is too much BBWAY or Iway in metagame , so , Nec can be droped by MB EL , toxic can play N/RT with weapon spells ... , and VoR can be replaced for a PD/PB mes . Just depends on metagame of the day hall ...

+10000 In current meta LC isn't played at all, MB(El/P with soc and run skills) is, and the toxic go N/RT with weapons and life , also true that the mesmer can run any stuff! If someone could change the page would be cool --Ryden77 13:31, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

mes and nec bars

Drop esurge, and take a standard PD bar, so you don't just farm UW. Also the necro bar having one weapon? its really not gonna help vs all the r/a sways that are forming. Drop well and sig souls on the nec and take shadow and resil, that way you will be able to hold up much longer vs the sway meta, and this build has enough aoe to blow up altars anyway. Also without shadow/resil your ghost will die on altar maps. 86.142.43.16 07:17, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

this isn't very good. and only one team runs it, not meta. Gringo 04:39, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Isnt good? this wins from balanced -wota-conta only team build me and my guild got problems with is that lame bbway. And im not talking about vs low rank teams. also high ranked guilds.

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