Talk: Team - HA Shattering Orders

I see this build beaing run every day in HA, it totally rapes any backline really fast... Tyrael I'm santa! 02:04, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Mh + wow. «Novii« 02:14, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

So you are saying that you can magically maintain WoW on both ur monks? Also, WoW only has 50% block chance and ur offhand and dual are unblockable, the only REAL counter to this is weapon of shadow, which is generally only ran on Sway teamsTyrael I'm santa! 02:22, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Also, since prots dont help the SA rangers can switch to another squishy as long as they keep the healer down Tyrael I'm santa! 02:29, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Grasp the rangers, keep up foes, pd orders, mh! + warding on heat, resil on prot. GG--TahiriVeila 02:35, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

^ «Novii« 02:41, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

So then tell me good sir why does this win halls every day then? Tyrael I'm santa! 11:40, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Someone's forgotten about IWAY.--Ikimono "...And my axe!" 15:44, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Because big pressure in HA wins.--Ikimono "...And my axe!" 15:44, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Because Dead Hours are srs bsns hard. --Frosty 17:38, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Because tombsers are really bad--TahiriVeila 19:19, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Because meta build is meta Tyrael I'm santa! 01:09, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

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ombo breaker! ---Chaos- (moo) -- 01:10, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your useful and constructive comment sir Tyrael I'm santa! 01:20, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

He said, after he just said something random on the convo. ---Chaos- (moo) -- 10:27, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

No sir this build is actually meta, if you would do something else than play codex arenas you would know Tyrael I'm santa! 12:42, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

np. Hallucinogen - LSD (Oliver Lieb Remix)---Chaos- (moo) -- 13:25, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

chaos thanks to u i now cant count my fricken colons to put down. also this is meta. meta tag it. lol meta tag on trial build ^.^--Bluetapeboy 00:43, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

I always use the Edit window to make comments, except for when I make new sections. Just copypaste the previous amount of colons. ---Chaos- (moo) -- 10:05, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

I like the variant with the moi ele more.FMK- 01:31, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Not to get too deep into theory crafting this crap, which will hopefully be nerfed in the next update but what about this? You run a crip anthem para to spam covered cripples all over, replace leaping with disrupting stab for more random interrupts and run a N/Rt OoV to provide some support so you last more than 30 seconds. Also a WoH monk with vig spirit so you last longer against other R/A's and your face rollers don't die so quick against hexes. In the version people are running now the LC is completely pointless (not that much pressure on it's own) and any decent team will push the OoV if he tries to camp out of range. At least with this you get support when OoV is disabled. - Zero.Six 04:34, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

No snares... --Frosty 09:59, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Do you really need snares in this build? If you want them so bad change the OoV to a snarer. - Zero.Six 16:44, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Yes you need snares because the other team will snare you if they have a brain Tyrael I'm santa! 19:08, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Also bad paragon is bad Tyrael I'm santa! 19:09, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Since the choice for snare is free I added a MoI and an SS necro(as daily ran by tO), any more suggestions? Tyrael I'm santa! 19:32, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Admittedly this works, but I don't think I've ever lost to it (it does 0 pressure whatsoever if your midline has brains) and i can keep my HB up 24/7 lol, even with the 5 r/a. If I'm running spike I just block stairs = you flawless them, if not you just have to hold up 3 mins (but ive held up 7 or 8 before when my team was badddddddddd and couldnt kill) cuz it has so little defence. It would farm shitters though. Rawrawr Dinosaur 19:39, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Farming shitters = good build category...although, I would really like some snares and other melee help. Karate Jesus 19:41, 29 December 2009

I added snares and the commonly run SS necro (they run it just for barbs though) Tyrael I'm santa! 19:45, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Held halls with this (with an LC) 3 times yesterday (and not on dead hour) zzzzz.... any more suggestions? If not I'm moving into testing Tyrael I'm santa! 14:23, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

K testing it is Tyrael I'm santa! 19:25, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

A build that allows shitters to farm shitters = good build. I'm pretty sure if you don't suck you can run pretty terrible builds and still farm shitters! --Crow 18:22, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Bump

Needs moar votes! Tyrael I'm santa! 22:59, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Needs moar serious votes* Tyrael I'm santa! 23:03, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

One more Tyrael I'm santa! 14:06, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

as per votes

Note:I'm not standing up for the build, im pointing out the stupidity of the votes. Brandnew, almost every team has this same hex removal (some bring convert, most don't), and this has about 10000 interrupts, enough to shut down a lot of hexes, including grasping. Ben, the builds that can beat shitters are usually the builds that are easiest to PUG, which means even if it can only beat shitters it is ideal for players, making it a Great build (see IWAY, SWAY, etc). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk • contribs) (UTC). 19:20, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

An obvious argument along that line is that this build loses to sway and hexways that are not completely retarded, the two most common pug builds. - Zero.Six 19:49, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

You are way better then I am, so I removed my vote.  Thomas So Dutch  21:22, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

In my "defense" however, i would like to say this completely relies on melee to deal damage, where as with most builds that is not the case. So if your frontline is snared the shit out off you don't deal damage. Your interrupts point makes sense.  Thomas So Dutch  21:53, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

i forget the tag for cleanup, but this needs a real write up, it looks like a piece of shit. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk • contribs) (UTC). 21:42, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Oh I'm sorry mister that my first teambuild doesnt match your high standard of quality Tyrael I'm santa! 23:35, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Wowza

I have never run this, nor have I ever seen this run. (No parties at HA accept noobs like me and I'm not in a guild that HA's, unfortunately) But just looking at this build makes me laugh a little at the utter pwn that must take place when it is run. ChaoticEvil 13:10, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Then you obviously haven't played tombs in a while since 1/3 of the unranked pugs forming in id1 are some variant of this....--TahiriVeila 16:18, January 2, 2010 (UTC)