Archive talk:Team - HA Spirit's Strength Rits

Iron Mist.... will make this build fail. You forgot to mention the rits must have to use Lightning-dmg modded daggers...otherwise if a target is being snared or called on, that's..well.. you know? Just retared. Other than that, most of the people's comments are valid as well, regarding to bonding/rend. It may be better to take out one SS rit for an R/A who has slightly higher AR than a rit with no insigs (and 100 against elemental) to be a 'better' tank than the squishy rits. All in all, this build smells of fail... and if success, then it'd be luck. There won't be much AR ignoring damage since DB has a 6 sec recharge.... and HotOx will fail on balled enemies. And if spiking one enemy, by the time they see Rt/A's, they will know it's a dagger build meta, and will probably prob the person being targeted. As opposed to say..ranger bow spikes..or ele spikes.. where the enemy is not sure who'll get targeted yet, just *bam* hit with 8-10 forked arrows... or 5-6 SF's..meteors....whatever. But this is like seeing a sin run to you.. being that's your only source of damage, 3 dagger weilding rits, it would hugely fail in higher end PvP in my opinion. But just remember, it's only an opinion, and not necessarily a fact, so if it works (which I doubt...unless it's sheer luck) - then congrats to you. -- Guardian 20:41, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Pewpewpew! ~ Big sysop 18:25, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Looks so pro, and I hate SS rits. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 18:58, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Blades of Steel, or do they want the AoE? ---Chaos- (talk) -- 22:06, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

you really fucking want the aoe, believe me Rawrawr Dinosaur 23:21, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

The Aoe means either your don't KD or you do AoE domages :> --Frosty 04:08, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

SS Rit with no wep spell?? /confused --BLUE LAZERSEat It 02:07, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

yes, u see the 3rd SS rit is the decoy SS rit, so enemies focus on shutting this down PWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 02:17, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Wep of aggression... --Frosty 04:08, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Yea... Because having 8 squishies (3 are even frontline) is good. You will be better off with 2 bonders or such. Also Energy will be a problem. You won't make a kill with this.145.33.45.34 09:26, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

The rit's use Ghostforge insignia's so they have 75AL while on daggers. Also how can you say you won't make a kills with this? 3 Rit's auto attacking with ooa and oop will do a shit ton of damage, let alone using attack skills. --Frosty 11:34, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Isn't rend enchantments kind of a problem? 129.2.175.80 13:18, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

It blows up the dps, but atleast doesn't cripple the builds. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 13:34, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

You sir, are a joke and clearly do not tombs. This wipes teams in 1 minute unless they do stupid amounts of linebacking. Rawrawr Dinosaur 13:36, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Well you rend one so he's running around like a monk with a hammer for 30 seconds and you lineback another and then all of a sudden your 1 minute wipe goes bye bye. Not saying it'll totally cripple the build but taking out a large portion of a builds dmg with 1 skill is kind of a problem.129.2.175.80 15:12, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

I assume you could just, y'know, PD rend? Thunda 15:16, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

But even a well placed rip could do the job if you catch them renewing the enchant.129.2.175.80 15:19, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

You can say that about attunements. --Frosty 19:07, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

How well does PDing OoA and OoP do to cripple the build? And if you can get Profane up first? Or! If you use this build and lineback each other forever? Exo Oo 15:22, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Well i wouldnt worry about losing OoA or Oop so much as someone getting Profane up and your rits walking into it. The Necro could very well sac himself to death if the prot monk pics up on OoA and spams rof a few times. ^^' But that for the most part comes down to luck and player skill i suppose. Still I'm not so sure this is a "great" quality build though. 129.2.175.80 15:33, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

tbh this build got much better with the removal of heros. I used to kittenstomp this with tease/aod pressure but now they have a decent chance that the enchantments stay up long enough to do some serious damage.FMK- 21:09, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

regarding frosty's weapon of agreession comment, before when i posted the build page had the 3rd rit not have any weapon spells on it PWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 16:26, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

bring human AoD and FUUUUUUU!!!!74.87.20.78 03:24, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Resses

3 is enough? -- Drah 17:34, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

no, but its a borat build. Gringo 04:00, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

also has like no party healing. meh still not sure how good this is, have to run it with some better people.FMK- 05:39, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

the word youre looking for is "bondereliant", but lolha. Gringo 06:21, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

This

Looks like the next roll-or-be-rolled way. Fast matches, anyway. It's a shame you've no space for Sight Beyond Sight 'cos blind will stop this in its tracks, and having more than 3 rezzes would be nice. Also squishy frontliners relying on enchantments to do damage is kinda risky. I'd wager that if it works, it'll work well, though. 188.74.101.228 13:50, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

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Diversion lead/offhand 76.185.20.44 03:03, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Stop failing at playing 123123123123 melee bars. Shazzydiddles 04:57, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

can't see this winning in a r/a meta.FMK- 18:10, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Uh, if they stick their R/As on your rits then they are never ever going to kill anything. Rawrawr Dinosaur 18:22, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

walking to a rit pressing 123 takes 5 seconds, also lol bonds.FMK- 18:46, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

It takes well longer than 5, rit is at their backline and r/a is at your backline, you just won't kill shit if you lineback with r/as. With other builds you can lineback it and still kill easy though, just r/as dont pump for shit Rawrawr Dinosaur 18:55, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

im with the baddie here, each of them picks an SS rit and just strips off SS every 45s or whatever, then has 35-40 seconds of normal killing time. Gringo 19:49, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

who the fuck are you? also I never mentioned linebacking it's just that this was strong shortly after heroes got removed because there was no mass ench removal. there is now.and you don't even have wow.FMK- 20:03, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

You asking who he is just proves that you yourself are no-one on pvx. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 20:07, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Lol, "a no-one on pvx". What an insult. 188.74.101.228 01:52, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

D/Mo backline

this needs it. :> ··· Danny Pew Pew 20:10, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

^--TahiriVeila 20:13, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

you could say the same about any build with e/n orders. channeling is more reliable, one PD on order of pain and energy management would be a bit screwed on dervs, channeling is just reliable. Gringo 20:19, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

I always found the d/mo backline sucks anyway, every team ive gone against with it (that 4 melee shit) we've killed in ~2 minutes with 3 d/mos which is a bit stupid considering its supposed to be at least equivelant to an rspike backline. Rawrawr Dinosaur 20:06, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

i've never once lost to a d/mo backline, im not sure why. i would assume they would be better in the right situations, but maybe only bad people run them, who knows. Gringo 21:47, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

It's b/c only bad people run them. A Good player running them with orders is v effective.--TahiriVeila 03:46, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

good teams find a way to shut the orders down more often then not, and that really bones them in the face :< Gringo 05:09, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Like casting a shit ton of enchantments on someone who is getting trained really quick. That was a fun moment my team had once and then doing mild pew pew. +1 for bad assassins not knowing they're uber-raping their own Orders.--Ikimono "...And my axe!" 06:18, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I've always thought OoA was a bit risky, but I guess if the other team cottons on and actually uses it against you that's pretty nasty. 188.74.101.228 17:50, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

SA meta (untill update)

Archive dat shit? --Brandnew 10:20, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Bonder vs SA? Nope, and SS Rits at all vs SA is pretty bad, they only have to lineback a little to make you pretty rubbish for 30 seconds. Imo, archive at least until SA gets nerfed (if it goes, knowing ANet...) Widow maker 17:41, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Unarchieve?

Come on guys, you know you want too. Chocobuny 09:17, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

suggesting votevipe or people update their votes.FMK- 11:35, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Vote Wiped

Due to the change in the meta from lolSA Rangers to more hexways, balanced blah blah. --Frosty 20:04, April 15, 2010 (UTC)