Lame. - Rawrawr 11:54, 7 January 2008 (EST)

We have condiway which is HB Assassin meta, why wont we have a HB Monk meta then? trying to keep this as generalised as possible coz my Monk team is completely different though dont u think that I should just post what I use? --SuperIgorsigIgor 11:57, 7 January 2008 (EST)
I'm just stating running a monk is HB lameway <_< - Rawrawr 12:00, 7 January 2008 (EST)
I see, but rly, dont u think my build is better? coz Guardian sucks rly, nearly all Assassin opponents bring skills to exploit it. --SuperIgorsigIgor 12:04, 7 January 2008 (EST)
Would there be another Variant for Shield of Force for ppl with out EOTN that would still work ok?Huynh sig Huynh Sanity 23:07, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

Talk Now! :D

U herd me, Talk Now! me has put quite a lot of effort in here u kno :D --SuperIgorsigIgor 08:59, 18 January 2008 (EST)


--SuperIgorsigIgor 06:12, 19 January 2008 (EST)

Talk plx, this is a metagame Monk capping team, plz, or just change the name or whateverz u whant but just talk. --SuperIgorsigIgor 06:00, 20 January 2008 (EST)

talking...- Jak123X 14:34, 20 January 2008 (EST)

This is meta

It's about as queer as it gets, but it's meta. If this doesn't get rated great you're all crazy--Goldenstar 14:37, 20 January 2008 (EST)

eh go WoH on monk then plz uninstall. Capway is gayway imo. himynameisbobbyjoe 21:44, 21 January 2008 (EST)
no, its just coz u phail big time at HB he he, Monk way is best HB build, and no matter how u dislike it due to your unableness at HB it did get approved by all of GW players as trully great HB Team. And besides, going WoH at HB is phail, with no energy management u will just get steamrolled by an Assassin and thats all not to mention weaker Prots. To finish it all off, there are two core HB Teams, Condiway or Monkway, niether of them is lame, both of them need a great deal of skill to run well and to succeed and niether is an instawin exploiter team like Heroways were in HA. --SuperIgorsigIgor 11:08, 22 January 2008 (EST)
why is it that every(nearly every) team build has to have way at the end... ok IWAY had to be called that way... but cmon its not funny any moar :/ IIIIwan13 19:45, 22 January 2008 (EST)
Flareway Ftw! Kongtorp 15:40, 30 January 2008 (EST)


cmon, its rdy fopr voting, I think it is as good and as generalised as it gets also vote on its effectiveness and dont give 0-0-0 votes just coz u get pwnt by this build and think its lame 'n' stuff. --SuperIgorsigIgor 10:26, 24 January 2008 (EST)

PLEASE rename, the name atm indictaes that Massacre made all the builds, which he didn't! --Drowning Pigeon 16:33, 24 January 2008 (EST)
ye, I was thinkin' of dat coz when ive posted I was thinkin' dat Masscreway means capway or Munkway, but it doesnt, thus there is a player of the same way and he never invented this build coz like 600hp/Smite it was slowly perfected by various players, so yes, this MUST be renamed to HB Munkway, now, how do i rename stuff? :D --SuperIgorsigIgor 18:11, 24 January 2008 (EST)
call it: HB-Capway, and to rename I think you have to start a whole new page, but I'm not sure, you can make a new page and then add a redirect temporarily on this one to the new page with a new name. ask an admin though, I'm not sure =/ --Drowning Pigeon 11:04, 25 January 2008 (EST)
awww, ye need to ask and admin, I assume they have some magical power to change names of builds, but hey, were do i find those magical beasts? :D --SuperIgorsigIgor 12:01, 25 January 2008 (EST)


ive found that there is no real need for the derve and just have another spear chucker instead, and perhaps on the monks skill bar lose assassin skills and go Mo/W and get shield bash and bonetties defence works great for me :D Lodgeinator 14:43, 25 January 2008 (EST)

u will get overcapped too easyly with the lack oh Recall and return plus u wont have a supporting character which will make u very voulnerable to pressure coz Derv usually starts to spam SoPL on everyone and Bonettis could not work if u go vs. another Munk. --SuperIgorsigIgor 05:34, 26 January 2008 (EST)

and u actually can use what u want, everyone has his own playstyle, but the build here is a generalised version of the current meta which is what majority of players are using. --SuperIgorsigIgor 05:36, 26 January 2008 (EST)

but with bonetties it gives good energy management and can be the counter against conditionway aswell as shield bash. Also it can work against this build as normally the other team can get pets on you so it stops damage and gives energy. Lodgeinator 07:47, 26 January 2008 (EST)


no words but the smiley :D --SuperIgorsigIgor 19:37, 26 January 2008 (EST)


Change build name now please, Massacre Way is a player in the game ffs.. and he did not make all these builds, it gives false credit, call it capway if you really need a "way" at the end--Drowning Pigeon 08:35, 27 January 2008 (EST)

I think just watching at this userpage is enough to understant that it was me Super Igor, who generalised and offitially posted this build, not that Massacre guy who i dont even kno >> --SuperIgorsigIgor 17:31, 27 January 2008 (EST)

I'm pretty sure this has been run before you posted it. -Shen 17:33, 27 January 2008 (EST)
I dont liek teh new name >> call it Monkway mebbe? I dont liek Conditionway name, where is the condition pressure ffs? call it Sinway, so we gunna have two Core HB Builds, Monkway and Sinway. --SuperIgorsigIgor 11:40, 28 January 2008 (EST)
Umm no condition pressure = sin conditions,and capway is what people call gay teams where the player is a mon199.235.123.239 12:39, 5 February 2008 (EST)

Shadow Meld

Aren't Shadow Meld dervishes used more often than Pious Renewal dervishes these days? Teutonic 09:18, 31 January 2008 (EST)

Yes that's right. However you can also use Aura of Displacement. Which i find better, cause if you split your D/A to a shrine you dont need an ally with ya.


This build is the bomb. It's boring and annoying, but it rolls absolutely everything. Rename to HB Lameway plz tho. RustybsurgeRusty 18:08, 9 February 2008 (EST)

One more thing, which is a bad thing about this build, is when you're at a shrine with your Pious Derv, and you're about to heal with ZB then all of a sudden the derv uses Imbue Health and then you're out of energy. But it can be avoided. RustybsurgeRusty 18:10, 9 February 2008 (EST)
If you know the derv is going to imbue you, why use ZB? oO micro ftw tbh. Rainbow Ftw

Rename Vote

All in favor of changing the name to HB Lameway

All in favor of leaving the name

Maiming Spear?

Someone has added Maiming Spear, uhm, well snare is always good but having one extra Interrupt is better imo, much better, so it shouldgo into variants but not into actual build imo. What is more, someone actually made quite a big change to it without discussing it in the talk page, cuz the Munk now has no hex removal what so ever, siphon the Munk, GG. --SuperIgorsigIgor 20:22, 16 February 2008 (EST)

reverted back to ska's edit on kan31. those people were scrubs. and tis a wiki. you can change abck if you find the changes bad, easpecialyl these appalling ones.--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 16:36, 23 February 2008 (EST)

thx, the maiming spear edit wuz vandal. --SuperIgorsigIgor 10:04, 28 February 2008 (EST)

Poisonus Bite

WTB apply poison. Klumpeetsignature Klumpeet.ŧ.¢. 14:16, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

WTS Wilderness Survival. Dragnmn talk cont 06:48, 29 March 2008 (EDT)
Apply Poison = lower DPS, 2 sec cast for poison is very bad, the fact of majority of players using it makes their R/Ps frequently fail against mine in a dogfight. --Super Igor 07:42, 6 April 2008 (EDT)
How is apply lower DPS? I agree it is lower DPS, but you can add extra pressure when your team is together by makes rangers with Apply constantly switch target to spread poison. Klumpeet 07:16, 26 April 2008 (EDT)
I quote "How is apply lower DPS? I agree it is lower DPS..." Poisonous bite ftw. Grummore 17:57, 14 July 2008 (EDT)


Says Zealous spear. Wtf? ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   16:21, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Antidote Signet

Definitely change Remedy Sig to Antidote Sig...amirite?--Underwood 22:27, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

Stunning Strike Warrior

Waay more popular and better than the dumb dervish. Kills the monk :)--Xfire14siggy 20:43, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

Second Ranger

I've actually swapped the second ranger as a R/W for added pressure. I generally keep 1 and 2 (W/P and R/W) on closer shrines while I split out the R/P to do some serious capping. I am sure this is incorrect gameplay with the big time HB'ers.( 01:08, 8 August 2008 (EDT))

"For Great Justice"

Needs to be changed. Life Guardian 20:43, 11 October 2008 (EDT)


Wtf is "Extreme Pressure"? ICYFIFTYFIVE 22:31, 1 January 2009 (EST)

I believe it means a large amount of damage. This can be a spike on one target, or steady damage on several targets.


I don't get it. Is Goren just too dumb to play this spear-warrior bar? Or has his taste of gvg during the guru cup caused him to think HB isn't worthy of his attention? Pluto 04:18, 31 January 2009 (EST)

you cant split him for long Zzes Tyan 02:32, 9 August 2009 (UTC)


the build is great i got r1 commander with it in 4 days! this is great you use the ranger to cap the shrines for you and have the two warriors with you to take down enemies and capture more shrines. I must mention that the ranger can cap all by its self and never needs heals unless 2 or more enemies target the ranger. the dual warriors work great and do the job its great for duel monks too, and they pressure great! the only thing i must mention is the monk build is a little rusty. If you and your team is hexed you are screwed. In general the team build is wonderful and works great for capping and pressuring resulting you winning the match :)! --peすeR 03:13, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Replace as your is's with was's and works with workeds. Smitytalk 19:00, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
03:13, 20 April 2009 (UTC) ... --Frosty Frostcharge 19:28, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
watFMK- 19:43, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
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