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Shit is fucking gay but soooooooooooo fucking fun--Goldenstar 01:39, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

why using poisonous bite?--Relyk 02:05, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Hmm....for POISON? LifeWikiLOD7 02:07, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
apply poison :D--Relyk 02:08, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
I assume that the bars would be altered to avoid so much overlapping?--|Hipowi sig Hipowi pew pew pew 02:09, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Lol at trying to get a 2 sec cast off with hero AI pew pewing dspear everywhere. LifeWikiLOD7 02:18, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Apply is too much energy on this bar and on a split there's not enough condition removal for you to need to be constantly reapplying poison. Plus with poisonous you don't have to spend 2s casting apply and there's no chance of poisonous getting rupted. On a regular packer apply might be better, but poisonous is better on a feral packer.--Goldenstar 13:37, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

if you are afraid of sin chains

bring d-shot. frenzied is baed--|Hipowi sig Hipowi pew pew pew 02:20, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
that's why everyone does so--Relyk 02:22, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
you cant remove rigor when you;re KDed for 4 seconds--|Hipowi sig Hipowi pew pew pew 02:26, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
which is why you maintain empathy so that if the sin tries to pull a chain off on you he dies?--Goldenstar 13:37, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
PnH ftw? And only idiots use frenzy tbh. If they frenzy, just train them for the rest of the match. LifeWikiLOD7 15:27, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah cuz hero AI tells them to pnh empathy when both monks have backfire and vor on them. ocool. 86.163.68.67 15:31, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Also, even if they didnt frenzy they'd die if they do a chain :\ 86.163.68.67 15:32, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Micro PnH on the redbar, have redbar remove emp, redbar heals PnH. Win LifeWikiLOD7 15:40, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Believe me, that doesnt work lol. 86.163.68.67 15:57, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Still, a decent player will micro this to death. You won't be able to keep your hexes on. LifeWikiLOD7 16:09, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
lol this isn't pve, have you every played HB before?~WaffleZWafflesigLOL(contribs) 16:19, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Please, explain how you can "micro this to death" if you pnh your heal monk, who then cure hexes empathy, your pnh will die instantly followed by the rest of your team. If you pnh the pnh, then... your heal will die instantly. If you pnh mo/n then cure hex the pnh, nothing will happen because pnh is cover hexed. This shit kills rly fucking fast and splitting and ganking r/ps or killing it even faster is your only option, there is no surviving it. 86.163.68.67 16:25, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Sync HB in Jap dis tbh.LifeWikiLOD7 16:47, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Ok. 86.163.68.67 17:04, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

k life, first off you're fucking retarded for thinking people don't use frenzy, it's the best ias in HB. If you can't cancel dash vs one asttacker you fucking suck. Second, if you micro vs this, yeah you can run into problems. But that's when you should be splitting, when you can't force a kill. Usually though if they force a pnh it'll do enough damage that packers will score a kill before the heal monk can catch up. Otherwise you wait 10s and reapply hexes till monks run out of energy.--Goldenstar 00:00, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't hb much but

won't you die without a healer?FMK- 21:59, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

ether feast+frenzied defense. Drah McNinja 22:03, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
+empathy~WaffleZWafflesigLOL(contribs) 23:42, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
+VOR/Backfire for everything else.IkimonoNeeds more ParagonMonk-Paragon-icon 02:09, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

VoR + Backfire?

Doesn't putting VoR and Backfire on 1 caster rule each other out making only one hex (I think last one you casted) do damage and not both. So the Usage part would be off.

no?--|Hipowi sig Hipowi pew pew pew 21:00, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
What lead you to think that two skills that do damage make them cancel eachother out???--72.189.92.141 21:28, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

this build is a bitch to play against...but you can easily kill the mesmer if you target them, and just ignore the heroes and go cap cause theyll always be 1 person short if you keep killing the mesmer...

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