Archive talk:W/D Enduring Scythe

Same premise as http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:W/D_Endurance_Attack_Spammer ,but different weapon and AoHM + SY looks interesting. Seb2net (Talk) 11:15, 11 January 2008 (EST)

Why isn't the build under untested general from the main page? 204.52.179.199 13:10, 11 January 2008 (EST)

Sorry, that was me. Teutonic 13:10, 11 January 2008 (EST)

Can anyone help?

Looks fun to use, TBH. Too bad there's no IAS. Rickyvantof 17:56, 25 January 2008 (EST)

Almost all of your attacks will activate at 1/2 or 3/4 second speed. Aura of Holy Might raises your Attack Rating not your attack damage percent and is extremely effective with little Kurzick/Luxon rank. The same goes for Save Yourselves. Teutonic 13:49, 30 January 2008 (EST)

Energy

mystic regen+aura+endurance+vital=yes you have the energy to cast, but not before the battle, and therefore you'll be casting while you should be hitting. cute concept, but lose mystic regen, its a fuckign warrior. 10:06, 1 February 2008 (EST)

I opened the talk page and had no idea what you were talking about, checked the history and found two idiots screwing with skills. Please look at it again and give me any advice you can. Teutonic 10:56, 1 February 2008 (EST)

K now it looks pretty damn nice, but fyi you forgot to remove the idiot's earthprayers, put it all into scythe. 11:31, 1 February 2008 (EST)

Pius Assault

is gud. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 19:46, 1 February 2008 (EST)

lol i fail. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 19:47, 1 February 2008 (EST)

I forgot this uses Aura of Holy Might. I sometimes use a similar build that has no enchants. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 19:48, 1 February 2008 (EST)

AoHM

Fails pretty hard here. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 22:10, 3 February 2008 (EST)

Drop Aura of Holy Might and use Pious Assault, because that is WIN! Rickyvantof 14:57, 4 February 2008 (EST)

10e skills will lower your attack speed and force you to drop AoHM which is incedibly good. "Contrary to the description, the stated percentage increase is actually added to the user's damage rating. For example, at title rank 5, rather than increasing damage by 25%, it raises damage rating by 25, effectively increasing damage by 54%. For details, see the discussion page and the article on damage calculation." Two normal hits under AoHM will probably outdamage Deep Wound and won't remove any protective enchantments placed on you. Also, AoHM changes your damage to Holy Damage. Teutonic 23:39, 4 February 2008 (EST)

How can you out-damage Deep Wound? It's a condition! Pious Assault has 1/2 activation and the 10e hardly matters. Pious Assault in main bar, AoHM in variants, once again. Rickyvantof 01:17, 5 February 2008 (EST)

Deep Wound essentially adds +100 damage to one attack. Aura of Holy Might adds ~35 damage to each attack. Teutonic 13:18, 6 February 2008 (EST)

Furious Scythe

I've been running this in PvE lately, and I found a Zealous mod isn't really needed, cause when you're in need of energy you just auto attack once or twice (In PvE the 3 extra seconds don't really matter) which is why I recommend a Furious Scythe, to power up "SY!" even faster. Rickyvantof 08:16, 5 February 2008 (EST)

Furious is very very bad. If you don't want to use Zealous, use Vamp or something.

It's not very very bad. It's not as useful on a scythe, cause there are no Adrenaline based dervish skills. But it could be useful to maintain "SY!" Rickyvantof 17:15, 10 February 2008 (EST)

It adds one adrenaline 10% of the time. This will add up to an extra "SY!" after 80 hits. Zealous or vampiric will add several hundred damage.Teutonic 18:55, 10 February 2008 (EST)

It seems to proc more than just 10% of the time. Back before the For Great Justice buff I had a Furious sword and Dragon Slash. I only used it for about a week, but in that time, twice it procced four times in a row with Dragon Slash, and it regularly procced 2-3 times in a row. 76.89.84.136 00:33, 12 February 2008 (EST)

It does do it more than 10% of the time because if you are attacking 3 ppl then it will add up to 30% (if you are using a scythe). Though I must say that I still prefer the vamp or zealous mod.JORLZ36181 15:55, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

That's your imagination. Teutonic 07:59, 12 February 2008 (EST)

Understand how probability works before you tell someone they're wrong.--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 08:25, 12 February 2008 (EST)

Would you like to explain who's wrong or what exactly is wrong? Teutonic 12:32, 12 February 2008 (EST)

I have to go to class righ tnow but around 4 this afternoon i'll post back here.--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 12:58, 12 February 2008 (EST)

10% chance with 3 enemies (ASSUMING YOU HIT ALL 3) =

0.9^3 of no extra adr = 72.9% change of 3 adr

3(0.9^2)*0.1 = 24.3% chance of 4 adr

3(0.1^2)*0.9 = 2.7% chance of 5 adr

and 0.1% chance of 6 adr

Thus - a scythe can therefore be the most logical weapon to use furious on!

BUT this is looking at it per attack. If there's one enemy, then per attack it's efficiency drops again - more so since it's slow and you're not charging adr skills as fast as they can. 204.153.88.3 15:57, 31 July 2008 (EDT) Beomagi

NERFED

In the face. ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹ 03:10, 18 April 2008 (EDT)

Skills only changed for two weeks blah blah blah etc. Check the developer notes on the updates. Don't archive it. - PANIC! sexiness! 04:23, 18 April 2008 (EDT)

Even then, it's 1/4 of a second. It sucks but it's not gamebreaking. Teutonic 11:08, 21 April 2008 (EDT)

Perfect Scythe and Energy Management

I've got an idea. With this idea you can take a perfect scythe and still have loads of energy management. This at the cost of not having a spike skill, but having more dammage. <pvxbig> [build prof=W/D Strength=12+1+1 Scythe_Mastery=12][Warrior's Endurance][Zealous Sweep][Lyssa's Assault][Wild Blow][Aura of Holy Might]["Save Yourselves!"][Lion's Comfort][Sunspear Rebirth Signet][/build] </pvxbig>Thonyonline 14:01, 3 May 2008 (GMT)

That's too much energy management, and the loss of DPS isn't worth it. Aura of Holy Might is the only skill you'd actually have to pay for, and even that shouldn't be a problem with Warrior's Endurance on the bar. -Mike 08:22, 3 May 2008 (EDT)

Buff

IAS, pl0x. ــмıкεнaшк 20:20, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

Asuran Scan

Insta-activation...5 second recharge...why choose AoHM? -- Nature 01:42, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

Oh, and high % increased dmg. -- Nature 01:43, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

Single target damage increase. And the bonus from AoHM is probably 2/3 as high (the numbers aren't right) but deals the extra damage to a possible 3 foes. ــмıкεнaшк 09:47, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

Removed Asuran Scan from variants(its on the main bar) also removed the note "stance removal as a counter" Warriors Endurance isn't a stance anymore, and Club of a Thousand Bears isn't AoE KD on a Scythe Correct? The article states it...I have changed the article to reflect club of a thousand bears not doing aoe kd as both GW wikia and official wiki state this. -Anon 11:18, 18 September 2008 (EDT)

Your right and good job. Karate Jesus 14:50, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

i use Drunken Master instead of Asuran Scan + XiV 13:52, 27 September 2008 (EDT)

lame attack skills

try a bar like: <pvxbig>[build prof=W/D Strength=12+1+1 Scythe_Mastery=12][Warrior's Endurance][Power Attack][Counterattack][Victorious Sweep][Aura of Holy Might][Burst of Aggression]["I am the Strongest!"][Asuran Scan][/build]</pvxbig>--96.14.175.191 07:38, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

Fast skill activation <3 Fox007 07:46, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

fast activating attack skills are only good like, Hard hiting attack skill + quick activating dmg attack example: Evis+executioners+agonizing chop(1sec)

when u try spamming them you really dont attack as fast as u might think when considering after cast. in fact u might actually attack slower since it will interupt a regular attack to accomplish the quick cast one.--JRyan 09:31, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

Ur doin it rong. Regular auto attack -> fast attack. Repeat cycle. Increase attacks per second with your scythe which equals big dommoge. - Misery Is Friendly 09:32, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

tbh try leviathans / griffins sweep. I'm tryin this build with that--64.251.53.130 09:21, 24 November 2008 (EST)

Plus I'm pretty sure most attack skills don't have aftercasts.96.252.118.186 22:48, 8 January 2009 (EST)

Team

This can easily be played with GDW--Shadow 19:09, 5 November 2008 (EST)

Any physical can. ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹ 09:29, 24 November 2008 (EST)

Even a locust fury sin :3 Fox007 12:03, 24 November 2008 (EST)

Moebius/Death Blossom does it better ;o ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹ 12:06, 24 November 2008 (EST)

Locust's Fury doesnt affect scythes :<--ChristmasRelyk 23:01, 8 January 2009 (EST)

Clubbing bears

Mainbar now that it hits (up to) 3 targets? Its liek Erf Shakurs little brother.--118.90.87.116 09:50, 10 February 2009 (EST)

it's in optionals which is enough. there are so many good variants. ---Chaos- 10:02, 10 February 2009 (EST)

Mystic sweep

your only enchant is AOHM so its +9 damage unless enchanted by other teammates

it's for faster attacks and your teammates enchant you ---Chaos- 19:05, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Suggestions for Main skillbar

/vote for Flail & Body Blow (instead of Mystic Sweep) on the mainbar. Warrior without an IAS isn't a Warrior, really. --84.30.68.180 18:54, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

<pvxbig> [build prof=W/D Scythe=12 Strength=12+1+1][Power Attack][Sneak Attack][Eremite's Attack][Flail][Asuran Scan][Aura of Holy Might][Warrior's Endurance][Resurrection Signet][/build] </pvxbig>

Much love Fox007 19:05, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Fixed Strenght -> Strength there for you. --84.30.68.180 08:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Heroes

<pvxbig> [build prof=Warrior/Dervish Scythe=12 Strength=12+1+1][Warrior's Endurance][Power Attack][Mystic Sweep][Eremite's Attack][Distracting Strike][Wild Blow][Flail][Resurrection Signet][/build] </pvxbig>

Wild Blow and Distracting Blow can be traded out for an IMS (Sprint, Enraging Charge, Pious Haste, w/e), Lion's Comfort or some other attack skills, and Flail can be traded out for Burst of Aggression. Body Blow could also be nice. ــѕт.мıкε 01:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Tbh, it looks like a pretty good Hero frontliner. Separate build or edit this page? ــѕт.мıкε 19:39, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

A comparison with critscythe

Which has more potential damage? 82.45.105.74 19:50, 13 June 2009 (UTC)