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:Essentially you replace Sprint with "I Am The Strongest" and use Soldier's Speed as your only speed buff stance. Doesn't really save you a slot, but does mean less energy is used during the run. [[User:ImperialMike|ImperialMike]] 18:05, 4 January 2008 (EST)
 
:Essentially you replace Sprint with "I Am The Strongest" and use Soldier's Speed as your only speed buff stance. Doesn't really save you a slot, but does mean less energy is used during the run. [[User:ImperialMike|ImperialMike]] 18:05, 4 January 2008 (EST)
 
::Good Idea, ill change that right now.--[[User:Aesthetic|<font color="teal"><small>'''AESTHE'''</small></font>]][[User talk:Aesthetic|'''<font color="black"><small>T</small></font>''']]<font color="teal"><small>I</small></font>[[Special:Contributions/Aesthetic|'''<font color="black"><small>C</small></font>''']]
 
::Good Idea, ill change that right now.--[[User:Aesthetic|<font color="teal"><small>'''AESTHE'''</small></font>]][[User talk:Aesthetic|'''<font color="black"><small>T</small></font>''']]<font color="teal"><small>I</small></font>[[Special:Contributions/Aesthetic|'''<font color="black"><small>C</small></font>''']]
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:::oh and the avicara guile never been a problem for me.--[[User:Aesthetic|<font color="teal"><small>'''AESTHE'''</small></font>]][[User talk:Aesthetic|'''<font color="black"><small>T</small></font>''']]<font color="teal"><small>I</small></font>[[Special:Contributions/Aesthetic|'''<font color="black"><small>C</small></font>''']]
 
== Need for Tactics attribute?==
 
== Need for Tactics attribute?==
 
Is the Tactics attribute needed if we use Enraging Charge and Sprint instead of Solder's Speed? If the runner can get by with I Am Unstoppable as the only KD defense and does not need Balanced Stance, then Tactics skills could potentially be eliminated, freeing those attribute points for Protection or Healing attributes from the Monk profession.[[User:ImperialMike|ImperialMike]] 16:23, 4 January 2008 (EST)
 
Is the Tactics attribute needed if we use Enraging Charge and Sprint instead of Solder's Speed? If the runner can get by with I Am Unstoppable as the only KD defense and does not need Balanced Stance, then Tactics skills could potentially be eliminated, freeing those attribute points for Protection or Healing attributes from the Monk profession.[[User:ImperialMike|ImperialMike]] 16:23, 4 January 2008 (EST)

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1st build in a while. I think its a great improvement to the old drok's runner.--AESTHETIC

I think "I Am Unstoppable!" combined with Soldier's Speed is a great addition to the original Bold Forge runner build. I am not sold on the Signet of Removal however. Since Holy Veil is really the only enchantment, and since it usually will be shattered by the Avicara when running though the Worm tunnel at the beginning of Lornar's Pass, this signet won't function unless Holy Veil is put up again. Sometimes this is difficult to do since aggro from the Avicara may not have been broken before exiting the tunnel and encountering the Ice Golems.ImperialMike 15:42, 4 January 2008 (EST)
I also think additional KD protection is needed beyond simply "I Am Unstoppable!". I would still include Balanced Stance with Charge for safety.

I think I prefer a build similar to this:

I Am Unstoppable! Soldier's Speed Balanced Stance Charge! Signet of Stamina Feel No Pain Cure Hex Holy Veil

ImperialMike 14:30, 4 January 2008 (EST)

Could you possibly use Divert Hexes instead of SoR? with alittle investment in prot you can get rid of more than one hex/condition. and if you were to do that use Purifying Veil instead of Holy Veil? Quackerz0 14:48, 4 January 2008 (EST)

The advantage of Holy Veil is the doubling of the hex cast time, not just the hex removal aspect of that skill. Usually condition removal/reduction is not as important. I Am Unstoppable! removes and prevents crippled, which is what is generally feared by the runner. Feel No Pain could be used to counter degeneration as well as provide a general healing skill for the running. ImperialMike 15:42, 4 January 2008 (EST)

Add "I am the Strongest" to abuse Soldier's Speed.--Coloneh 16:30, 4 January 2008 (EST)

Essentially you replace Sprint with "I Am The Strongest" and use Soldier's Speed as your only speed buff stance. Doesn't really save you a slot, but does mean less energy is used during the run. ImperialMike 18:05, 4 January 2008 (EST)
Good Idea, ill change that right now.--AESTHETIC
oh and the avicara guile never been a problem for me.--AESTHETIC

Need for Tactics attribute?

Is the Tactics attribute needed if we use Enraging Charge and Sprint instead of Solder's Speed? If the runner can get by with I Am Unstoppable as the only KD defense and does not need Balanced Stance, then Tactics skills could potentially be eliminated, freeing those attribute points for Protection or Healing attributes from the Monk profession.ImperialMike 16:23, 4 January 2008 (EST)

This build doesn't use healing or protection prayers. — ViYsig5Victoryisyours (talk/RfA) 16:33, 4 January 2008 (EST)
True, but it could. Cure Hex for example. ImperialMike 16:49, 4 January 2008 (EST)