Edit edit edit!--ValeV 12:33, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
- Why the hell should a necro using this have 12 soul reaping??? Tyrael
I'm santa! 20:08, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
- When spirits and shit die it r give you energy Thomas So Dutch 20:35, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
- lol sf with no perma. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman]
22:40, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Lol comment above^ —Forget
23:04, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Lol comment above^ —Forget
- lol sf with no perma. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman]
- May as well. Unless you're using a blood or death focus, where else would you put them? Dark Prison lasting 2 seconds is about the same as lasting 5 seconds for running builds. Dark Prison isn't used as a snare, it's used to cover more ground. Occasionally, wolves or bears die from AoE during the run. Sometimes, giants and trolls and griffons fight each other in Snake Dance. Occasionally, party members try to run with you and die. Yes, it's not technically needed, nor can you really expect it to help you, but it doesn't take away from anything and it's a nice little boost when it does. (Not that you'll be low on energy with a 2 minute long stance.) Invincible Rogue
03:28, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
- Vincent... Comments like that make me want to cry... Permanent Shadow Form just slows you down. A lot. Shadow Form running was perfectly viable with a 17 second, 60 recharge Shadow Form two years ago. It's still perfectly viable, and Shadow Form has been buffed since then. My dervish can do the run naked. Having 60 AL is no excuse for needing Shadow Form. This is one of the safest running builds that doesn't use permanent Shadow Form. Heart of Shadow and Death's Charge make keeping your health up a joke. Invincible Rogue 03:28, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
- ^ running is all about knowing the route. You don't need permanent spell invincibility to run anything except the Ice Dome. With everything else it's just timing. As for the 12 points leftover...I'd put that in Blood Magic for Blood Renewal or something like that. That may be a little too oldschool for this site. 04:40, 31 December 2009
- consume corpse or necrotic transversal on dwarven corpses tbh--Relyk talk 06:08, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
- Dwarves are typically alive when you get to them though, so return is better. Plus it's a 1/4 second cast. Invincible Rogue 07:53, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
- Also lol @ dervish comment, if you run this as a dervish you are lolbad and should quit gw (VoS says hi) Tyrael Undead! 14:18, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
- No one said anything about running this with a dervish. More people need to vote. At the present time, this is the most reliable and fastest cookie-cutter build you can find that will fit all caster professions. 14:38, 6 January 2010
- Shadow Form with pious haste is brave. We used to run that on sins. Invincible Rogue 21:20, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
- Except compare us to the general populace of PVX. Is that NPA? 22:45, 6 January 2010
- Except compare us to the general populace of PVX. Is that NPA?
- Shadow Form with pious haste is brave. We used to run that on sins. Invincible Rogue
- No one said anything about running this with a dervish. More people need to vote. At the present time, this is the most reliable and fastest cookie-cutter build you can find that will fit all caster professions.
- Also lol @ dervish comment, if you run this as a dervish you are lolbad and should quit gw (VoS says hi) Tyrael
- Dwarves are typically alive when you get to them though, so return is better. Plus it's a 1/4 second cast. Invincible Rogue
- consume corpse or necrotic transversal on dwarven corpses tbh--Relyk talk 06:08, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
- ^ running is all about knowing the route. You don't need permanent spell invincibility to run anything except the Ice Dome. With everything else it's just timing. As for the 12 points leftover...I'd put that in Blood Magic for Blood Renewal or something like that. That may be a little too oldschool for this site.
- Vincent... Comments like that make me want to cry... Permanent Shadow Form just slows you down. A lot. Shadow Form running was perfectly viable with a 17 second, 60 recharge Shadow Form two years ago. It's still perfectly viable, and Shadow Form has been buffed since then. My dervish can do the run naked. Having 60 AL is no excuse for needing Shadow Form. This is one of the safest running builds that doesn't use permanent Shadow Form. Heart of Shadow and Death's Charge make keeping your health up a joke. Invincible Rogue
- When spirits and shit die it r give you energy Thomas So Dutch 20:35, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
