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::Sin is probably the fastest for sickened gaurds, but necro and monk is very fast too and can do the whole mission. --<font face="Poor Richard">[[User talk:Smity|<font color="Black">Smity</font> the <font color="black">Smith</font>]]</font> 16:48, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
 
::Sin is probably the fastest for sickened gaurds, but necro and monk is very fast too and can do the whole mission. --<font face="Poor Richard">[[User talk:Smity|<font color="Black">Smity</font> the <font color="black">Smith</font>]]</font> 16:48, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::So, why would you want to farm this? [[User:Tyraelxy|<font color="Maroon"><span style="font-family:Roman;">'''Tyrael'''</span></font>]][[User_talk:Tyraelxy|<font color="Black"><span style="font-family:Roman;"> Strikes Back-</span></font>]] 13:15, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::So, why would you want to farm this? [[User:Tyraelxy|<font color="Maroon"><span style="font-family:Roman;">'''Tyrael'''</span></font>]][[User_talk:Tyraelxy|<font color="Black"><span style="font-family:Roman;"> Strikes Back-</span></font>]] 13:15, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
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::::Interesting skins I think? [[User:HareeMuh|<font color="Purple"><b>Hareemuhhh.</b></font>]][[User talk:HareeMuh|talk?]] 13:42, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

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Just a little twist in typical gladiator build to farm Cho's State mission. Worth it? please, discuss :) --Lhoj 13:13, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

I'de like to try this, my warrior isn't very far tho. How does it fair against the rits and ele's? --Smity the Smith 13:34, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
It says restart at the zoo.. so I assume it gets raped by them + therefore thats why you stop. --Chieftain Alex "talk" 13:44, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, can't take them as it only deals damage to melee attackers, maybe throwing in a sword attack or 2 it would be possible (Watch Yourself and Bonetti's are quite optional btw, there's no need of them if the build's used properly). Will try it later if I get some time. Anyway, the main goal of the build was farming a part of Cho (Sickened guards, the warrior boss and optionally the animals) with something else than caster classes (55s mainly) and without the need of bringing some antiKD skills. --Lhoj 13:46, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
Yea, that's what I was thinking, maybe there is a way to allow this to farm the whole mission. --Smity the Smith 13:50, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Tested

This works very well, A+. I didn't have the PvE skills the build page called for so I used a variant like this: <pvxbig> [build prof=W/N str=12+3 tac=12+3+1][Dolyak Signet][Gladiator's Defense][Grapple]["On Your Knees!"][Healing Signet][Deadly Riposte][Riposte][Necrotic Traversal][/build] </pvxbig> Dolyak Signet seem's like a very good option for the build cus the extra armor helps out alot and the anti-kd is very nice. This build kills just as fast as the N/Mo cho farmer, but is alot easier to use. The only downside is it can't complete the whole mission, which honestly isn't a very big deal because there are plenty of sickened gaurds to farm. --Smity the Smith 14:57, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

It's a little slower than 55 SS variant, as you can throw 2 SS to speed up things while you can't double the damage from gladiator's. Anyway, it's much easier to use, as you said, and ripostes also help to speed up things (each group takes 12-15secs). I agree that Dolyak signet is also a nice option, but has some drawbacks. it slows you much (though it doesn't matter when you're standing still farming them9 and forces you to spec into strength. I'm to try a variant with sword attacks to try to farm the full mission, but it'll be hard. Case I don't succeed, I'll add dolyak as a variant, though it needs 12 strength to be maintainable, but 13-15secs can be more than enough. maybe we can spec it 12+1+3, 10, 8. --Lhoj 16:09, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Suggested bar

<pvxbig> [build prof=Any/N death=12]["You Move Like a Dwarf!"][Necrosis][optional][optional][optional][optional][drunken master][necrotic trav][/build] </pvxbig> + ℓγssάή [rage] 15:42, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

What? Why would u want energy intensive single target damage instead of AoE? --Smity the Smith 15:51, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
The upper bar is technically not AoE either, and it probably does the damage slower than this. That shit just needs to pack a little defense, and then you could bring some broken necro farming elite. A Any/N template sounds like a damn solid idea, though. We'll just set up the optionals for each profession. Support? --DANDY ^_^ -- 16:10, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
It's gonna need some heavy e-manage for some professions if it's spamming ymlad and necrosis on recharge. Tru...hardly working 16:13, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
This is intended to be a warrior farming build for cho. Warriors can't afford such an intense energy build, plus, gladiator's does much more damage than single targeted skills. Even assuming the warrior could manage to spam necrosis, it's 90 single damage each ~4 secs while gladiators does around 148 to all enemies attacking you in that period, and provides a nice amount of block. Maybe we can work a Any/N build for every caster class, but would be to different to the warrior variant, so I think this deserves its own page. --Lhoj 16:21, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
I think a Any/N page for all classes could work, just list options for each class, etc. Necrosis should never come near any of the options tho. --Smity the Smith 16:23, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Any/N_Cho%27s_Farmer Rough right now but meh --Smity the Smith 16:48, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well

ignore well tag, I'm working on a Any/N page --Smity the Smith 16:35, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Derv and Ele bar are pure theory craft at this point, and got too lazy to try to find options for other classes. --Smity the Smith 16:47, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Saw Any/N then the old N/Mo build and though, lolwut? then saw the rest of the page and though, Imma try some of this later. nj Smity. --Samsig 17:00, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
Ty, also sending a nj to Lhoj for coming up with the war bar. --Smity the Smith 17:03, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

And you couldn't just move the page? This is also incredible messy, go have a look at how the Any/A runner bar is made. --DANDY ^_^ -- 17:04, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Work in progress, but ur right and ill try to make it look like that --Smity the Smith 17:21, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Trial Mode

The N/E, E/N, N/D, and the D/N are theory craft, so we need some testers. Also, if anybody can figure out how to get some of the left out professions on here, it would be great. --Smity the Smith 18:41, June 16, 2010 (UTC) <pvxbig> [build prof=any/n curse=12 death=3][spiteful spirit][great dwarf armor][i am unstoppable][feel no pain][optional][optional][optional][necrotic tr][/build] </pvxbig> Maybe lol?--Relyk talk 19:48, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Also this should be a guide. Derv can use a scythe and tanking skills to farm--Relyk talk 19:49, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
Yea I was thinking that for derv, probably a reaper's sweep/wounding strike + victorious sweep spammer. The prob with the general bar you posted is that high armor is no where near enough to let you tank this stuff in HM, I don't think there is going to be such a simple solution as a general bar for this reason. Also, if we list a bar for each proffesion, we are showing what is most optimal. For instance, the sin bar blows shit up incredibly fast and is by far the most superior. --Smity the Smith 19:55, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
Also, the problem with the guide, although it sounds like a good idea, is that they are harder to find as they don't show up when ppl click the PvE farming builds link. --Smity the Smith 20:01, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
Meh might as well leave it, doesn't matter. just remove the theorycrafted bars until you come up with working builds. derv bar would be aob because of convenience though--Relyk talk 20:05, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
Well, the Ele bar works.. I'm not sure if it will work with necro primary because energy storage seems to be pretty important to it. Only thing left to test is derv which I will now. --Smity the Smith 20:36, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
Mesmer one is tested too? It seems pretty energy consuming, and pretty slow too. Btw, I'd always wanted to test Cho with the ritualist, but I was too lazy to go get Great Dwarf Armor. i finally did and I did some testing. This build works for Rt/N though it's quite harder than with 55 necro or with gladiator warrior. Optional slot is open preferably for an antiKD such as "I am unstoppable!" (which I don't have with my ritualist). Anyway it can be done timing your casts. If we can improve it somehow we might add it as a viable variant for ritu.

<pvxbig> [build prof=Rt/N name="Rt/N Cho" res=12][Great Dwarf Armor][Soothing Memories][Vengeful Was Khanhei][Vengeful Weapon][Light of Deldrimor][Optional][Weapon of Shadow][Necrotic Traversal][/build] </pvxbig> Brainstorming go go go!! --Lhoj 21:34, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Nice job man! looks pretty good to me. About the mes bar, it is actually extremely fast and works pretty well. These are all kinda new ideas so I'm sure improvements can be made. I tested the SS Dervish bar and it is quite fast too, I doubt scythe will out perform it, but if anybody is up for the challenge.. --Smity the Smith 21:38, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

<pvxbig> [build prof=d/n scythe=11+1+1 earth=11+1 myst=8+1][i am unstoppable][armor of sanctity][conviction][aura of holy might][zealous sweep][reaper's sweep][victorious sweep][necrotic tr][/build] </pvxbig> did all the groups before the warrior boss in 8 minutes. I doubt its much faster and is harder than using ss once or twice lol.--Relyk talk 22:58, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Nj. Looks like Paragon is the final frontier now. Any ideas? --Smity the Smith 23:12, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
Build:P/Mo Dead Sword HM Farmer lol--Relyk talk 23:16, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
You think that will work? I also completely forgot about ranger. --Smity the Smith 13:43, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps this: http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build%3AR/N_UW/Melee_Mob_Toucher --Smity the Smith 13:45, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Which one is the quickest?

I can make any of the bar's.. but which one would be the quickest or best one to use? --81.96.112.35 16:11, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Why don't you try them out and find out for yourself? They will pretty much be all the same speed. --Samsig 16:12, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
Sin is probably the fastest for sickened gaurds, but necro and monk is very fast too and can do the whole mission. --Smity the Smith 16:48, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
So, why would you want to farm this? Tyrael Strikes Back- 13:15, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
Interesting skins I think? Hareemuhhh.talk? 13:42, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
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