Talk: D/Mo 130hp Dervish Farmer

Rollback

Dear 74.113.128.7, I reverted your edits because an increase in Smiting Prayers only affects the amount of adrenaline you gain from Balthazar's Spirit, the build's only Smiting Prayers skill. Changing from an 8 to a 9 in Prot Prayers will, however, grant a longer duration for Protective Spirit. Just FYI. - Krowman {{sysop}} 05:57, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

Variations

Note that there can be different variations of the same build that can be used in different boss runs. For example, I use Balthazar's Spirit, Protective Spirit, Mystic Regeneration, Mirage Cloak, Mystic Vigor, Lyssa's Assault, Mystic Sweep, Reaper's Sweep with 12 + 3 + 1 Scythe Mastery, 5 + 3 Earth Prayers, 6 + 3 Mysticism, 10 Protection Prayers to farm a run that does Terob's Roundback, Jerneh Nightbringer, Robah Hardback, and Buhon Icelord in the Floodplain of Mahnkelon. The listed build does not show Mirage Cloak, and never did when originally posted on Guildwiki until I posted a note about it. I have seen other variations of the build for other bosses as well. - Lord Xivor 12:45pm, 10 June 2007 (EST)

Boss List

Post any bosses that this build has been successful in farming solo.

Terob Roundback
Jernah Nightbringer
Robah Hardback
Buhon Icelord
Lian, Dragon's Petal
Eshim Mindclouder
Vahlen the Silent
johon the oxflinger - Eye of the North - outside the Eye. dye once with enchant +20 not a health +30. so you have 58 health. easy as. but when running up to him. wait for the dogs to chace you, then curve round them, otherwise they trap you in a circle and you cant get to oxflinger. its a easy farm and lasts about 30seconds to a mintue. ive farmed him over 14 times so far no green drop but 6golds 3 perfect. so not to bad

It's on the page. - Skakid9090 18:56, 10 June 2007 (CEST)

Yeah, apparently it is...I just didn't scroll down enough. When it was on Guildwiki, I remembered the boss list being in the Talk section, so that is where I was looking. Sorry. - Lord Xivor 12:58pm, 10 June 2007 (EST)

No need to apoligize, it was a simple mistake. - Skakid9090 19:09, 10 June 2007 (CEST)

Want to add Corporal Argon to the list? He can be solo'd on normal mode if you take out the priest first. Haven't seen any Seers in the mobs, but if there is, could just rezone. If there is a priest in the patrol in front, take that one out first as well. If you do, pull the patrol away from Argon's group to avoid aggroing the other priest as well. Just pull them back until the priest bunches up with the scribes. It won't be able to heal itself and a scribe or two. Then Argon is an easy solo. - Nite 06:40, 7 August 2007 (CEST)

I need Help!! under Acolyte of Melandru it says Take out the Seers. How do you take out the Seers when they use all Enchantment Removal On You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!--71.220.42.99 22:55, 4 September 2007 (CEST)

Question about how much gold per run

Anyone know how much gold per run can people who use this build can get?

When I farm Hydras I can make around 2k by myself in about 10-20mins, it all depends on how many Hydras spawn and where they spawn at (seeing how they travel and i make a loop then rezone).

Tips

So I made a tips section because I had so much to say about titans in domain of secrets. Do we want to move the tips for everything down to this section, or move all my tips back up to the titans? IMO the second option would look ugly, and I like the idea of a tips section anyway as people can continually add to it. -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 03:58, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

Checked and Reviewed

For Viability. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 13:15, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

Zealous Scythes

A Zealous scythe is recommended while facing only one foe; if you don't use one you may not gain enough energy to recast all 3 enchantments. Note that energy mangement when facing a single foe may become easier by dropping Balthazar's Spirit and Essence Bond.

This is wrong, at least the part about gaining energy because you have the zealous scythe. If there is -1 energy degen, it means a loss of 1 energy every 3 seconds. A scythe hits every 1.75. This means after 3.5 seconds against one foe, you will have gained one energy. Over 35 seconds, you will hit with your scythe 20 times for a gain of 20 energy, assuming you hit every time. Over that same 35 seconds, you will lose 11.666 (avg) energy from the degen, for a net of around 8 energy. Had you not used a zealous scythe. You would therefore have 3-4 extra energy by not using a zealous scythe. It does become advantageous when you're facing more than one foe and are hitting them. If you cast heart of fury, you'll hit once every 1.1 seconds for 14 seconds (with mysticism at 9 in this build. That leaves you with over 14 seconds, +14 energy from scythe -4.666 from the lost of the pip and -10 from the cost of casting heart of fury. You'd lose energy or break even. The time to use a zealous scythe would be if you could hit 2 enemies at once and preferably 3. Overall you're better off sticking with a vampiric or sundering to counter boss heals. Dropping essence and balth might do the trick, but it would depend on the attack speed of the sole attacker. --69.249.50.222 17:21, 6 July 2007 (CEST)

Equipment

I was wondering why armor level doesn't make a difference?--Stenzi 02:33, 7 July 2007 (CEST)

Because there is a capped damage peak anyway. Even at 15 AR, you will only be taking 13 dmg. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 02:42, 7 July 2007 (CEST)

oh! i didn't realize that at first haha. k thx :]--Stenzi 14:21, 7 July 2007 (CEST)

Acolyte of Balthazar Farming

According to the bosses section, farming the acolyte of balthazar is easy....but i dont get this at all because is accompanyed by several seer's which use strip enchantment straight away..i've tried farming him with this build but i die in seconds...anyone know how to do this? Squidfish 19:53, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

Pull em. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 20:30, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

Do u mean pull the seers? or who? I've tried taking out the bowman at the gate first, then going for the main mob, but they all seem to aggro at once, which ones am i trying to aggro seperately? Squidfish 01:05, 10 July 2007 (CEST)

Have you tried to agrro them with a longbow? Apotatoe 13:48, 11 July 2007 (CEST)

Can someone email me a video of how to do this boss as I am absolutely stuck on it, the Seers get me every time and I've tryed getting them alone but the other Kournans follow. I even tryed with max armor and just trying to quickly take them down.... Please can someone help me Xmark Zdrec 8:38, 31 July 2007 (GMT)

well i just completed farming him. i took a party of 8. ran in. iced the 2seers + 1 healer there. let my team die. flagged them off map. 58'em it took overall 15 minutes to kill balthazar. no the spell is not stopped for 120 seconds. it was mearly 30seconds and hes back in form of balth. and he has some mean health regen somewhere along the line. so i propose brining heart of fury or another energy5 +dmg +enchantments spell. first time round he didnt drop anything, second time round he dropped it. send email to superstitious_glass_eye@hotmail.co.uk if you want to see a screenshot of me taking him down. it takes alot of effort, and i suppose its a worth while drop seems not many people can farm him.

oh yeah, also dont kill off the gaurds. get an energy problem then. and it takes twice as long. silly me.

Vahlen

I tried farming Vahlen, and I died twice like it says. They killed me. Why is that? Al

if you die twice on vahlen, yoou die in one hit. how do you do it then.

ya some of the areas have been nerfed from what i know at the moment i have a build to do capping runs and it doesnt work b/c of strip enchants so I'm gonna go back through the list and find what i can farm. Like Nightbringer and Bubahl you can still doo just did those today it would go bat to the great if someone would edit the list of things it can farm. It should still farm a lot of them. Aztec God Tai 01:20, 12 July 2007 (CEST)

Yea, I actually got Chor's Axe and Robah's Axe with this build. It works, but Vahlen is just one of those tricky ones. Al 09:09, 12 July 2007 (CEST)

I find Vahlen quite easy, just die twice and unless you are unlucky and they interrupt your enchants then he is quite easy. Cool Name 17:03, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

If you can avoid killing him in the worms and kill everyone else that helps too.--69.249.50.222 19:06, 20 July 2007 (CEST)

silly question but did you equip yourself with a +30hp scythe and not just an enchantment scythe? die twice = 1hp add your +30hp you have 18/19 i cant remember. but i find this farm is the easiest and ive had 7scythes out of it so far (green) the only drag is the dying twice thing.

need help with this build

I was trying to farm djinns in the undercity in hard mode, but it seems that the foes heal more health than you can inflict damage. I was wielding a perfect Icy Scythe of Enchanting with a +5 energy mod, but maybe I should replace the Icy mod with a perfect Sundering. Anyways, killing the djinns seem to be impossible in hard mode because they heal more than you can deal damage (i also had the same problem while farming plants and behemoths as well).--Dark Paladin X 23:58, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

Wounding Strike might help, it provides an instant deep wound which reduces healing by 20%. Just spam you attack skills as often as possible and go for healers first. - Skakid9090 00:04, 15 July 2007 (CEST)

Ok thx, I just need to replace the Icy mod because the sapphire djinns are highly resistant to that (I bought that scythe and it came that way). If I were to take out nearly all of the mobs, then the diamond's leader's comfort should be useless then.--Dark Paladin X 00:29, 15 July 2007 (CEST)

I also added a note about Jade Brotherhood Mesmers since you could get unlucky with mesmers interrupting while casting enchantments (it IS possible for you being interrupted when you cast 1/4 casting time spells because the AI have higher reflexes).--Dark Paladin X 23:49, 15 July 2007 (CEST)

Ok, Now i need help..can you do this while wielding a zealous weapon, and go as a D/E and use something like Armor of Earth and Stoneflesh Aura if your fighting a phyiscal damage foe?

Hard Mode Elementals

The build also works very well on the HM elementals in ascalon, its faster than the warrior farmer too. the bosses take awhile to kill but the crowns of thorns can be killed, unlike the warrior version.

You can kill the crowns with the war version. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 19:11, 20 July 2007 (CEST)

vahlen farming

if you die twwice, you have one health, and in one hit your dead because protective spirit wont work for some reason.
please help.

Minimum damage you can take (short of completely reducing the damage) is 1. Use a fortitude mod or something to boost your health to 10 or so (ideally 15). -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 04:41, 24 July 2007 (CEST)

or take off a piece of armor, increasing your health by 75 - Skakid9090 04:43, 24 July 2007 (CEST)

Exactly. I farm him with no problems. It is easiest by just taking an armor piece off. Just make sure it is not a piece with Earth Prayers or Scythe Mastery on it...and also make sure it is not one with the +1 energy regen on it. It might be good to rune your armor ahead of time so that it has pieces that are made to be removed in cases like this one.Lord Xivor 10:33, 4 August 2007 (CEST)

Personally, I keep a spare set for getting through the game... -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 16:25, 4 August 2007 (CEST)

Leilon

Anyone else having problems with Leilon? Running exact build as stated and had trouble getting there solo, ended up having to take heros and still had trouble. Thanks.130.13.142.102 22:34, 26 July 2007 (CEST)

Terob Roundback

Chances of getting to Terog without the birds getting you first is like 1 in 10... the boss list should be updated...

No, if you go straight out from the gate at Rilohn, you won't get touched by the birds. Do not go after Terob from the right side of the door. Go around the mountain to the other side (have to go through a group of Heket). I have NEVER once aggroed the birds before out of hundreds of farm runs. Lord Xivor 10:31, 4 August 2007 (CEST)

Bosses

I have tried farming several of the bosses now, and i never made it.... What on earth might i be doing wrong?

probably nothing. its an inferior build. i wouldnt have very high expectations.--Coloneh 08:33, 26 August 2007 (CEST)

I'd be willing to show you an exuro run. Leave me a note on my talk page with your IGN, and I'll see what I can do. -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 22:11, 27 August 2007 (CEST)

My Vote

(Responding to armond on my talk page) I gave the build such a low score because it does the job of a 55 monk except less effectively. dervish farming builds are better, and 55 monks are better. not that it will never work, its just inferior.--Coloneh 05:50, 24 August 2007 (CEST)

i'm not sure what you mean, it works but it is just waaaaaaaay slow/

Ignore the fact that a 55 does it better. Does it still deserve as low a rating as you gave it? And to be honest, I find this *faster* than a 55 in a number of scenarios... -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 02:44, 28 August 2007 (CEST)

Underworld

I've tried farming the Underworld with this build but I guess they have added an enchant stripper to the monster list. soo I dont think its possible to farm the underworld with just a 130 anymore