Build talk:E/N RA Bsurge

So it can blind, spread cracked armour and do a little damage, as well as heal itself and spam FF/PS. Bsurge makes up for lack of stances? comment/rate.GOGO — LukeJohnson 20:48, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

energy is still meh with aura & attune--Goldenstar 20:49, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

lol no it isn't. — LukeJohnson 20:57, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Aura gives you 1 energy. It is in no means significant and you definately can't spam FF and such. --☭Guild*talk* 20:57, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Well as you're also spamming blind and such... and as its only down for ra, you'd mainly be ffing daze/blind/cripple/DW. Not Poison/bleeding. which you do have enough energy for — LukeJohnson 21:02, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Actually even better. As most people on pvx are bad, test it then comment. It takes 2 seconds to make a character with this. — LukeJohnson 21:03, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

this is dumb. foul feast plague sending is terrible lol. go rip and enfeeble, and bring shock arrow instead of cracked armor. --Readem 22:02, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

shock arrow really isn't necessary, energy is fine on this--Goldenstar 22:09, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

I bring lorb when I play this in TA. --Readem 23:15, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

dhsot.2 seconds is generally bad — LukeJohnson 23:20, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

not really. --Readem 23:21, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

against a ranger it generally is. — LukeJohnson 23:54, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Blind the ranger, cast lorb on 40/40 set--Goldenstar 19:32, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Brandnew. RA is full of 3 physicals :( And screws up guardian breakpoints etc does lil weakness — LukeJohnson 12:05, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

should bring glyph of restoration for better healing in the optional. keeping blind and weakness on everyone is a good enough role already.

lol don't suck — LukeJohnson 16:57, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I thought that wat pretty hilarious coming from you. ^_^ Brandnew. 16:59, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

and you had to actually say it? :S was it not obvious? — LukeJohnson 17:09, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I think the comedy is you're calling someone bad and he thinks you're bad. ~ Big sysop 17:14, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

oh shit. really?... — LukeJohnson 17:31, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't really know what you are doing with these statements Luke. It almost seems like you are trying to burn someone or be sarcastic/funny, but you kind of just end up sounding retarded. Misery Says Moo 17:33, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

^That and you take yourself a little too seriously. Aren't you like 11 or something? ~ Big sysop 17:36, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

no. im a 10 year old girl. — LukeJohnson 17:55, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Bad at e-sarcasm too.. Ah oh well, hf with whatever else you do on this site. /wave ~ Big sysop 18:09, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Wtf is with the 4 universality? It counters like most fo the ra builds and has self-healing and emanagement liek crazy and provides damage pressure. 5-5-? it — LukeJohnson 19:46, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

why the fuck do you even care, really?:/ Brandnew. 19:48, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

wow, rdcls. ---Chaos- 19:58, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

I 4ed it in universality to spread annoyance and hate over the wiki. as you see my plan worked out perfectly.

... okay seriously:

i 4ed it because it falls down, explodes and burns if the attunement gets stripped. even though aura of restoration is a great cover enchantment, rip and rend are still two meta skills and own this build in the face. completely depending on attunements is always a lack in universality imo, but maybe thats just me. Looks like Breitschleif 19:52, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

why not replace Enfeeble with Enervating Charge? more dmg same effect and same energy cost for Attunement. Gasp10 12:30, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I cried

Build:E/W Arena Bsurge feels ignored.--Relyk 02:03, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Make a generic E/any one, with both warrior and necro variants NeoBro 14:58, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

"Good support but not very good damage and Blinding Flash can still be utilised well on a normal air ele bar with a different elite. Such as Mind Shock, Invoke or Dual Attune." People use these in RA? Exo Oo 10:39, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

...yes. Blinding surge is lol in RA.--Ikimono"a rabid grizzly bear" 13:59, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Bsurge ownzzzz FrostytheAdmin 14:31, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Bullshit Arenas?

Thats what i thought it was when i read it,name change might be an idea

Then you haven't been playing GW long enough. 22:16, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

O rly? im pretty sure its an uncommon abbreviation as no other blinding surge build is named BS i think B Surge is the accepted abbreviation,as searching BS leads to a disambiguation page. I Am Epic 12:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

errr. BS = BLIND SURGE. it means nowt else in gw Exo Oo 13:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I never hear it getting called BS really, just bsurge. Reunion 14:29, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

well wiki states BS as b surge,balths spirit and banishing strike. I Am Epic 14:35, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

WIKI IS FULL OF DUMB SHITS JUST LIKE PVX! But Bsurge is called Bsurge. Misery Says Moo 15:05, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

it's bsurge, stfu~WaffleZLOL(contribs) 15:44, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

^WRONG! It's BSurge. lrn2read and lr2grammar. Luke you have experiance in grammarwarz with KJ :DSaomachuen 10:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Sweet merciful Jesus, I hope that is not what Wafflez meant. Misery Says Moo 12:26, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I think you are guys are meant to be talking about SBurge, oh wait. FrostytheAdmin 12:54, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Rend enchantments > Rip

I usually prefer Rend enchantments... with an ele in the opposing team you can only rip aura of restoration all the time over and over again if your foe isnt as dumb as a cockroah, which is rather pointless. sure 2 sec cast time is a hard one, but then at again at least you get the attunement. Looks like Breitschleif 18:16, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

no, rend may be more viable in place like HA to remove prots and keep channeling and hb down, but in RA you shouldn't be wasting enchant removal on an ele, you should be ripping off guardian's so your melee lols at the monk or veil so your hexers lol at the other team. rend's lower recharge therefor makes it more viable at doing the aforementioned jobs~WaffleZLOL(contribs) 06:29, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

I prefer taking Strip Enchantment from blood line over rip/rend/etc.. I invest enough points to meet and exceed by +1 the requirement for stripping 2 enchantments for a nice deep removal each time it's needed. It can also steal EDA's mojo, other enchantfags, etc.. --BlazingBurdy 23:43, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

What spec is that? Sounds like you have to sacrifice Curses altogther or have a crappy spec Enfeeble. Spaggage talk 23:54, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

You don't need much investment in curses for enfeeble; at ZERO curse points it's duration covers the recharge. You can essentially invest all points into blood to reach the breakpoint for two enchant strips. gg. --BlazingBurdy 15:21, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Sure that's great if you just want to keep it on one person. So what do you do if they 2 frontliners? Breakpoint for 2 enchantments removed from Strip is 8 and the spec on the bar for Curses is 6 so I don't know what you're on aobut when you says "You can essentially invest all points into blood to reach the breakpoint"Spaggage talk 19:19, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Why the curses?

Enfeeble costs one less energy than enervating charge with air attune up but it does a considerable amount of damage. Very poor choice if you ask me. And rip enchant doesnt really need any points into curses. Judge Omega 12:47, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

Cast time. And Enfeeble is stronger Exo Oo 19:04, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

Cast time, recharge, energy cost in case attune gets stripped, there are many reasons why its better. Drahgal Meir 18:19, September 6, 2009 (UTC)

Bsurge needs nerf

Should shorten the blind duration slightly. Too annoying in Arenas where you can keep 2 physicals perpetually blinded and I'm sure in HA and GvG the skill wouldn't take too much of a hit. Not sure about aoe effect. Strong in Arenas but would be weak in GvG without it. --Pinkeyflower 13:42, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Bring blind sets and runes. --Chaos? -- 17:04, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Of course, I bring blind sets and runes but none the less blind is almost permanent. Also, hammers and daggers negate -20% blind. Maybe a change in propensity to miss for blind? --Pinkeyflower 09:48, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

What? Anyway, everyone agrees that BSurge is dumb, I'm just presenting solutions to the problems, because that's all we can do. It's not like Devs come here to read what we think of bsurge --Chaos? -- 09:58, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's the condition itself that's the problem. if all skills had a long recharge it would be pointless to bring --Exo Oo 18:16, March 13, 2010 (UTC)