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:Or you could not be bad and use a r8 shield like everyone else to get the +16 armor.&mdash;[[Image:Cheese Slaya's Sig.jpg|50x19px]] [[User:Cheese Slaya|<font color=orange>'''Cheese Slaya'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Cheese Slaya|<font color=orange><small>Talk</small></font>]]) 22:07, 3 February 2009 (EST)
 
:Or you could not be bad and use a r8 shield like everyone else to get the +16 armor.&mdash;[[Image:Cheese Slaya's Sig.jpg|50x19px]] [[User:Cheese Slaya|<font color=orange>'''Cheese Slaya'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Cheese Slaya|<font color=orange><small>Talk</small></font>]]) 22:07, 3 February 2009 (EST)
 
::or you could not be bad in taste and get a gud looking tormented shield with r9 [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]][[User:Pwnagemuffin|<font color="Brown">'''P<small>WNAGEMUFFIN</small>''' </font>]] [[User talk:Pwnagemuffin|<small><font color="Green">crabs</font></small>]] 23:35, 3 February 2009 (EST)
 
::or you could not be bad in taste and get a gud looking tormented shield with r9 [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]][[User:Pwnagemuffin|<font color="Brown">'''P<small>WNAGEMUFFIN</small>''' </font>]] [[User talk:Pwnagemuffin|<small><font color="Green">crabs</font></small>]] 23:35, 3 February 2009 (EST)
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:::r8 darwings are sexy tbh.&mdash;[[Image:Cheese Slaya's Sig.jpg|50x19px]] [[User:Cheese Slaya|<font color=orange>'''Cheese Slaya'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Cheese Slaya|<font color=orange><small>Talk</small></font>]]) 01:16, 4 February 2009 (EST)

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so Cute McMonkeyTab 11:14, 28 January 2009 (EST)

d to — Skakid Rally- kupo!S9M 11:15, 28 January 2009 (EST)
d so Cute McMonkeyTab 11:16, 28 January 2009 (EST)
mo o RickyRicksawsmfacevantof 11:17, 28 January 2009 (EST)
No snare is brave--Relyk 11:27, 28 January 2009 (EST)
Do you even know what arena it's for Relyk? It could be a farming build for all you know. - Miserysig (talk) 11:29, 28 January 2009 (EST)
educated guess and common knowledge tell me skakid would probably tag this for ra--Relyk 11:54, 28 January 2009 (EST)
Why would you bring a snare over any of these skills in RA? — Skakid Rally- kupo!S9M 12:02, 28 January 2009 (EST)
fg>moi?--Relyk 12:02, 28 January 2009 (EST)
Why would you bring a snare over any of these skills in RA? — Skakid Rally- kupo!S9M 12:09, 28 January 2009 (EST)
Because you're using Water Magic and there is a skill called Freezing Gust that snares opponents which means they can't hit you with their daggers/swords/scythes/axes/spears--Relyk 12:12, 28 January 2009 (EST)
^ i loled at spears.--IkimonoNeeds more ParagonMonk-Paragon-icon 19:36, 29 January 2009 (EST)
I seem to recall Steam and Blurred doing the same thing and more. — Skakid Rally- kupo!S9M 12:14, 28 January 2009 (EST)
Palm Strike... Can you atleast put it as a variant >.>--Relyk 12:17, 28 January 2009 (EST)
Taking a skill just to counter a short duration cripple with ~60 damage tacked onto it is bad, there's nothing there thats worth replacing with fgust. Cute McMonkeyTab 12:21, 28 January 2009 (EST)
There's alot of palm sins in ra--Relyk 12:23, 28 January 2009 (EST)
Then use Steam on them. PS is awful when you can't hit with your attack skills. Cute McMonkeyTab 12:24, 28 January 2009 (EST)
i like snaring the survivor running around the map when my 3 wammo wars cant kill him--Relyk 12:29, 28 January 2009 (EST)
Putting pretty much permanent burning on him, and then spamming Shatterstone and Steam isn't bad either. Cute McMonkeyTab 12:59, 28 January 2009 (EST)

Optionals

Maybe Slippery Ground Slippery Ground as an alternative for Blurred Vision. And I could see this working in AB to provide pressure. Obviously, wouldn't be preferred over an ele capper, but it would work very well for pressure. You could just add Armor of Mist Armor of Mist as the run skill for AB. Oh noes sig KJ 19:29, 29 January 2009

actually, this works quite well in RA. I've used this in the past, suppresses melee and assists well in spikes.--IkimonoNeeds more ParagonMonk-Paragon-icon 19:35, 29 January 2009 (EST)
that wasn't what I was suggesting....as a matter of fact, it's almost as if you're not addressing my comment at all. Oh noes sig KJ 19:38, 29 January 2009
Distortion Distortion-WaffleZ LOL- 19:46, 29 January 2009 (EST)
Not a bad idea, but the energy loss could be rough. The cutoff for 3 secs is at 6 though, which is nice. Fuck, idk. Oh noes sig KJ 19:51, 29 January 2009
You bring maelstrom in ab so ur melee pugs can kill teh eles and monks--Relyk 20:06, 29 January 2009 (EST)
wat? Oh noes sig KJ 20:13, 29 January 2009

inefficient secondary usage

I suggest either bumping tactics to 9 to get an extra 8 armor, or removing altogether and taking Shieldbash The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xutar (talk • contribs) 21:02, February 3, 2009 (UTC).

Or you could not be bad and use a r8 shield like everyone else to get the +16 armor.—Cheese Slaya's Sig Cheese Slaya (Talk) 22:07, 3 February 2009 (EST)
or you could not be bad in taste and get a gud looking tormented shield with r9 MuffinPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 23:35, 3 February 2009 (EST)
r8 darwings are sexy tbh.—Cheese Slaya's Sig Cheese Slaya (Talk) 01:16, 4 February 2009 (EST)