so Tab 11:14, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- d to — Skakid Rally- kupo! 11:15, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- d so Tab 11:16, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- mo o Rickyvantof 11:17, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- No snare is brave--Relyk 11:27, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- Do you even know what arena it's for Relyk? It could be a farming build for all you know. - (talk) 11:29, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- educated guess and common knowledge tell me skakid would probably tag this for ra--Relyk 11:54, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- Why would you bring a snare over any of these skills in RA? — Skakid Rally- kupo! 12:02, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- fg>moi?--Relyk 12:02, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- Why would you bring a snare over any of these skills in RA? — Skakid Rally- kupo! 12:09, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- Because you're using Water Magic and there is a skill called Freezing Gust that snares opponents which means they can't hit you with their daggers/swords/scythes/axes/spears--Relyk 12:12, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- ^ i loled at spears.--IkimonoNeeds more Paragon 19:36, 29 January 2009 (EST)
- I seem to recall Steam and Blurred doing the same thing and more. — Skakid Rally- kupo! 12:14, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- Palm Strike... Can you atleast put it as a variant >.>--Relyk 12:17, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- Taking a skill just to counter a short duration cripple with ~60 damage tacked onto it is bad, there's nothing there thats worth replacing with fgust. Tab 12:21, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- Palm Strike... Can you atleast put it as a variant >.>--Relyk 12:17, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- I seem to recall Steam and Blurred doing the same thing and more. — Skakid Rally- kupo! 12:14, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- Why would you bring a snare over any of these skills in RA? — Skakid Rally- kupo! 12:09, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- fg>moi?--Relyk 12:02, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- Why would you bring a snare over any of these skills in RA? — Skakid Rally- kupo! 12:02, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- educated guess and common knowledge tell me skakid would probably tag this for ra--Relyk 11:54, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- Do you even know what arena it's for Relyk? It could be a farming build for all you know. - (talk) 11:29, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- No snare is brave--Relyk 11:27, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- mo o Rickyvantof 11:17, 28 January 2009 (EST)
- d so Tab 11:16, 28 January 2009 (EST)
Optionals
Maybe Slippery Ground as an alternative for Blurred Vision. And I could see this working in AB to provide pressure. Obviously, wouldn't be preferred over an ele capper, but it would work very well for pressure. You could just add Armor of Mist as the run skill for AB. 19:29, 29 January 2009
- actually, this works quite well in RA. I've used this in the past, suppresses melee and assists well in spikes.--IkimonoNeeds more Paragon 19:35, 29 January 2009 (EST)
- that wasn't what I was suggesting....as a matter of fact, it's almost as if you're not addressing my comment at all. 19:38, 29 January 2009
- Distortion-WaffleZ LOL- 19:46, 29 January 2009 (EST)
- Not a bad idea, but the energy loss could be rough. The cutoff for 3 secs is at 6 though, which is nice. Fuck, idk. 19:51, 29 January 2009
- You bring maelstrom in ab so ur melee pugs can kill teh eles and monks--Relyk 20:06, 29 January 2009 (EST)
- Not a bad idea, but the energy loss could be rough. The cutoff for 3 secs is at 6 though, which is nice. Fuck, idk. 19:51, 29 January 2009
- Distortion-WaffleZ LOL- 19:46, 29 January 2009 (EST)
- that wasn't what I was suggesting....as a matter of fact, it's almost as if you're not addressing my comment at all. 19:38, 29 January 2009
inefficient secondary usage
I suggest either bumping tactics to 9 to get an extra 8 armor, or removing altogether and taking Shieldbash —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xutar (talk • contribs) 21:02, February 3, 2009 (UTC).
- Or you could not be bad and use a r8 shield like everyone else to get the +16 armor.— Cheese Slaya (Talk) 22:07, 3 February 2009 (EST)