Build talk:E/any Mind Blast Elementalist

it is 10 illusion right? (4 sec break point). --Frosty 16:27, 10 December 2008 (EST)

Do people really run this? I know imagined can be useful but distortion just seems like it's not worth it, and fire doesn't seem like it's useful other than on ganks. I mean, why mind blast here, there's nothing that GoLE + attune can't handle. It just seems like there's better options for stand and split play =\--GoldenStar 19:28, 10 December 2008 (EST)

I guess it means you can practically perma Distortion. --Frosty 19:32, 10 December 2008 (EST)

Blind them?--ChristmasRelyk 19:49, 10 December 2008 (EST)

damn u ska u leeker! --Readem 20:14, 10 December 2008 (EST)

readem is slow today--ChristmasRelyk 20:15, 10 December 2008 (EST)

Seems kind of a waste to use 10 illusion for imagined and distortion to me :/ This build just doesn't provide much utility other than the snare and the ability to split, and theres better splitters imo— Cheese Slaya (Talk) 00:18, 11 December 2008 (EST)

WoW and pwk :P--ChristmasRelyk 11:26, 11 December 2008 (EST)

More of a TA build tbh. Run commonly as a replacement for R/P in hexways. 83.102.63.166 07:43, 15 December 2008 (EST)

Quite bad. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 10:45, 17 December 2008 (EST)

^ if you run this over an R/P in small arena's you are bad.----ﮎHædõ๘یíɳ 13:46, 17 December 2008 (EST)

everyone on the upper portion of this page, is a complete fucking retard. This pumps way more damage than the R/P in arena's. I ran this with cirq, jatt, and torsen and won nearly every time. loldegen this out on a split? It will fucking kill you on a split. Between this, and a ranger to mtouch any nasty conditions, unless you send back a great deal of damage and healing, everything is going to die. You run a super split heavy build (Defy Pain War, 2 rangers, and 2 ele, 3 Monks), and these eles make stand-play fucking miserable. O, and shitterstone is actually quite terrible on a split in comparison to mindblast. The only reason people run it, is due to the fact euros don't counter split, but merely collapse at every possible chance and need the extra snare. --Readem 12:41, 18 December 2008 (EST)

Just wanted to be on this page so I can say Readem has called me a complete fucking retard. - Misery Is Friendly 12:43, 18 December 2008 (EST)

When he calls Unexist an retard, he calls the rest of wiki a bunch of numbskulls tbh--ChristmasRelyk 12:45, 18 December 2008 (EST

Nice weak mans split readem. Rawrawr Dinosaur 12:50, 18 December 2008 (EST)

I like, random commas. —SkaKid 14:03, 18 December 2008 (EST)

typing is for shitters, which is why I prefer vent lol. --Readem 18:09, 18 December 2008 (EST)

Wait a second, wtf: "Defy Pain War, 2 rangers, and 2 ele, 3 Monks"?--71.139.38.171 23:49, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

with superior axe and strength runes ofc 22:09, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Aura of Restoration

instead of Flame Djinn's Haste? Illoyon 19:18, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

This Build..

..is so f***ing ANNOYING! Three E/Me's and a Mo/W for RA/TA is the new OP'd tactic. Mindless blockspam inhibits any tactful play; E/Me's are near-invincible to all melee. Distortion needs to be 25/90'd BAD! Use this build while it lasts, because Anet becomes aware of it's OP'ness, Distortion (and perhaps any co-related E/Me skills) may get the thick end of the Nerfbat! --BlazingBurdy 14:02, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

lrn2plymelee ---Chaos- 14:11, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't think you have played or faced this in TA chaos, it's is amazingly dumb FrostytheAdmin 14:17, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I just feel this urge to flame anyone who QQ's even if they're right. ---Chaos- 14:22, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

it's strong but I don't think distortion needs to be nerfed to death. --Mel Ve Let 14:14, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Distortion isn't what's wrong here. What's wrong here is that even with Distortion up this build is pretty much always on max energy. The only exceptions to that are exhaustion and random interrupts that manage to hit you through Distortion before you get the energy from Resto+Attune. - 14:27, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

And the fact it's near permanent, which ANet desperatly wants to avoid. --- -- (contribs) (talk) 14:27, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

You can only perma distortion because of the endless energy. - 14:30, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Immolate nerf, Mind Blast nerf, Meteor Nerf (noticed how they were all buffed lately) FrostytheAdmin 14:31, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Distortion: 5e, 5r. For 1..5 seconds you have a 75% chance to block attacks. All your non-mesmer skills are disabled for 10 seconds. Is how we do things round hya, boy! - 14:36, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Any skill: w/e e, w/e r. Whenever you use a skill all your non-whatever this skills proffesion is are disabled for 10 seconds. FrostytheAdmin 14:41, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Update October 8, 2009. Fixed a bug that allowed people to use skills from their Primary and Secondary professions at the same time. - 14:53, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I'd find a new game. ---Chaos- 22:02, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Distortion: 5e, 5r. For 1..5 seconds you have a 75% chance to block attacks. Ends if under the effect of an enchantment. More reasonable :) 75.155.197.157 18:47, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

easily countered by a good monk and mbane in TA. --Readem 21:27, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Easily countered by countering their every counter. Sounds as easy as the it is to do the above. Mindblast + 40/40 = perma-block; near-impossible even for PRO MBane rangers with rank 9-10. They'll be too busy counting seconds on ele that they'll forget the monk's there, healing everyone without a care in the world and the ele blasting everything away with Immolate and Rodgort/Meteor. Distortion needs to meet Anet's nerfbat! SWING BATTA BATTA BATTA BATTA SUH-WING BATTAH!!! I'm rooting for 25/90! --BlazingBurdy 23:15, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

You don't need to count seconds to interrupt 1s casts =\--Goldenstar 23:22, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Mantra of concentration imo--Relyk 00:45, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

So, just telling every Ranger that they HAVE to STAPLE Magebane to their bars in order to stand a f'ing chance is in order then? No thanks! Distortion 25/90! --BlazingBurdy 00:26, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Dude, just switch targets. Leave the person alone until he is last one standing then just have everyone attack him. Even with imba mind blast+fire attunement energy management, he wont last long. --Drah McNinja 00:58, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Switch targets to... another E/Me or the dual stance monk?. ~ Tycn [a] 01:03, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

I thought he meant RA... my bad. --Drah McNinja 01:09, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

TA is ALWAYS REALLY BAD. skakid9090 01:01, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

LOL Tycoon! You speak the truth. Distortion is Imba. 25/90 is in Order! --BlazingBurdy 03:31, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Really; I've been rolling teams of this all day without magebane. If you think its imba, its just because you're bad at beating it, and would 100% chance have as much trouble beating a good hexway (which btw, is still more op :O) Rawrawr Dinosaur 18:54, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

I know it's beatable. The issue is it takes too f'ing long to break through teams with these @$$hol3 E/Me's! It's mindless, OP'd blocking with little consequence! Sh*t, this is like 'Escape', but without the 'Elite' status! Mindblast, AoR and Glowing Gaze makes the -2 energy seem like a joke! C'mon guys, ya'll KNOW Distortion on Mindblasters is just too good! ADMIT IT already! --BlazingBurdy 19:50, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but Distortion isn't the problem - on it's own it devours your energy like nothing else. I mean, where else is it used? It's only that Mind Blast gives you enough energy to use it lots, and Energy Storage means that even if you lose energy overall you have long enough to deal with it. You said it's like Escape but without being elite, but Mind Blast is elite and without Mind Blast, Distortion doesn't work. Yeah, possibly the build as a whole is OP, but Distortion shouldn't be nerfed, it's bad enough as it is in pretty much all situations except this one. 82.3.246.41 19:23, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

The thing is.. that anything that gives energy can supply distortion. Lyssa's Aura, E.Prodigy, E.Prism, or any skill/spell of it's likeness will abuse distortion to no end. Maybe it should be nerfed to dust in PvP only, but spared for PvE. It's OP'd otherwise.. --BlazingBurdy 18:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

This build isn't as hard to beat as people make it out to be. Don't QQ nerf everything when you can't beat it. Yes, it's OP because of the buffs to the fire skills and AoR. Yes distortion is annoying, get over it and sit everyone attacking one ele at a time till he's out of energy from distortion. In case you've never played MB before, lot harder to get that energy back once it's gone. Thus you have a useless ele that's waiting on energy regen because MB isn't giving energy back. I beat this bar 9/10 times I played it, and the people weren't bad at it either. --Link4all 21:47, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Equips

Whoever put the 40/40 illusion set is bad. Wanna get a half cast on a... stance? gg Joan %

Look in variants. 40/40 set for a snare can't hurt (I think it was mainbar at one point too). Toraen 18:48, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Ah! okay, makes sense; should be changed though, bit misleading Joan % 23:57, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Mantra of Concentration

in ta?--Relyk 11:38, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Distortion is the one after hottest skill in the fucking game. Brandnew. 13:48, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Combined with Mindblast/AoR/GlowingGaze/etc.. Distortion's a non-elite version of 'Escape' (except no IMS). It's utterly OP'd and melee-numbing with mindless blocking and virtually no penality for it. OP'd! --BlazingBurdy 01:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Magebane says hi--Relyk 07:50, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

That or take a 'sin, warrior, or dervish - Expose Defenses, Warrior's Cunning, and Guiding Hands all attack through block. 'sins and Warriors have a lot of attack through block skills, as well - you could use Furious Axe or Enraging Charge followed by Whirling Axe on a Warrior (though most Furious Axe warriors I've seen don't run quick adrenaline building skills for some dumb reason), for instance. Even a necro with Rigor Mortis could be helpful, but that has issues due to being a hex and having a long recharge (20 seconds). --Falseprophet 19:07, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

So are Shattering Assault sins back in the TA "meta" yet? :P 89.172.51.71 05:41, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

"40/40 illusion set"

The build mentions a 40/40 illusion set under equipment. That's useless. Distortion is a stance and doesn't benefit from it in any way.

Look 2 sections up. Toraen 17:33, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Moved the set to variants though to avoid confusion. Toraen 17:36, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Illusion of haste not good for gvg splitting? Exo Oo 17:41, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

fdh?----

Uhm Distortion..

I think distortion is an aweful skill in this build its only for 3 secs... and u lose 2 energy whith it + 5 energy from the skill

then just add glyph of restoration for good healing, interupting might be a problem but distortion wil not help so good against interupt etc.

No, you are just terrible and retarded. And learn how to sign please. ~~~~ <- like this 152.226.7.204 08:35, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

True it's only at 3 seconds, but it's super quick recharge makes so much better than everything else. The energy loss is regained by spamming Mind Blast. There's almost nothing you can do against mesmer interrupts (you can cancel cast), but 99% physical interrupts can't hit you. You can make it last 4 seconds by speccing a 8-12-10 spread. 08:38, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

It should be 4 seconds tbh. Misery Says Moo 10:40, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

It should be nerfed to all hell tbh. Non-Elite 'Escape..? Any1..? --BlazingBurdy 06:23, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Probability of this being ulterion = 65%. Not that anyone cares, just for fun.uɐɟɐʞıd o^_^o¸«` 05:58, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Rodgort's Invocation

its mainbar now...is the usage still right? using rodgort's on recharge sounds energy heavy, when under pressure...because of distortion. should i take it over liquid flame in ra/ta too? Illoyon 21:10, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

you've got millions of gazillions of energy, don't worryClose Impact 21:52, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

dont take it in RA/TA, since there arent 8 opponents there so less balled up ppl Terran 21:55, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

they still ball up...--Relyk 21:56, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

they do, but less likely Terran 21:58, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

You bring it in arena and how much you cast it depends on how much melee pressure you get. If they are ignoring you, cast on recharge --| Hipowi pew pew pew 03:31, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

You bring rodgort's in GvG/HA, in TA you take LF. FrostytheAdmin 09:34, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

I really wouldn't use this build. Combining Auspicious incantation with Rodgorts Invocation gives better energy management without having to bring such a low dmg elite skill. User:Traa1703

wow FrostytheAdmin 16:40, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

It's so this build can use distortion without worrying about energy whatsoever. If a ranger isn't running Magebane, they will have a hard time interrupting this, and it's immune to physical spikes in general. Toraen talk 16:44, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

--Ikimono"a rabid grizzly bear" 21:51, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

nm, i need to not try and wiki after just waking up.--Ikimono"a rabid grizzly bear" 21:59, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

From Myspace To Your Place [ganK] :> -- 12:11, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

GanK ran 5 of these (which btw has been ran many times before they did) and they definately didn't invent the build, so quite possibly most useless comment ever? 86.133.147.88 20:16, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Not sayin we invented it, but I've never seen anybody use 5 MB eles in GvG before we did :/ --Crowels[슴Mc슴]Mootles 21:11, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

go msn so i can say UR RONG 86.133.147.88 21:13, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

[yumy] FrostytheAdmin 21:15, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Any1 that would run anything BUT this blockf@g E/Me build (UNINSTALL). Those that think this build is not OP'd (again.. uninstall.. or just run x5 in GvG or x2-3 in RA*synced*/TA). Gg.. --BlazingBurdy 01:12, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Can tear up balanced in some cases, and by far is a better spike team build that team bloodspike. Just did some GvG with these and we sent bloodspike packing within 5 minutes. It's just strong shit, my guess is it'll be the next thing to be nerfed.-- 01:41, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Definitely, although im not sure what part they would nerf. I guess nerf MB again? Already been nerfed and buffed multiple times. Life 03:32, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Distortion: Ends when you cast a non-mesmer skill. (most likely) Drah McNinja 05:30, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Then people would move to mirage cloak or something. Life 05:35, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Mirage cloak isn't as good as distortion (3x energy, which would become a burden, 50% block, and its an enchantment). Drah McNinja 05:38, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Revert buffs on immolate and meteor--Relyk 06:25, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Distortion won't be the one nerfed, you can switch to different blocking easily enough. It's imbaness is quick recharging skills and has infinite energy. My guess is they'll lengthen the recharge on immolate and MB -- 12:11, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Distortion shouldn't be the one nerfed, it's never really used outside this build. They'd be better off actually buffing it (like reducing the energy cost per hit to 1 maybe) but then upping the recharge a bit so it can't be kept up 80% of the time. 81.110.25.23 12:29, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

People are already running it without Distortion. Distortion is clearly not the problem. Misery Says Moo 12:31, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

it all happened after the buff to aura of restoration, no? Terran 12:41, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

It happened mainly after the buffs to immolate and meteor, but took time to see play, Skakid le leaker. FrostytheAdmin 12:42, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

And honestly if they was to fix bars like this you would have to really change a lot with the game, there is so much wrong and it has got worse over the last 2 years, the game really is broken and to fix it a major change would be needed (like reworking practically every proffesion). FrostytheAdmin 12:48, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

The version without Distortion also doesn't have AoR apparently. Misery Says Moo 14:09, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually it does I am a bad obser D: FrostytheAdmin 14:11, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) It's partly AoR but mainly MB. I think it was buffed not long ago but either way you've been able to use it in very high-energy builds (I even tried an MB Healer in RA which actually worked, a bit) for a long time, it's just taken a while to get off the ground. I guess nobody thought of putting it with Distortion for a while either. 81.110.25.23 14:32, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

AoR isn't the problem. Although it is nice to distortion and then spam shit for heals while you lolblock. MB really isn't that OP, just this build and the team GvG build turns people over spanks them silly. Slightly longer recharges on MB and Immolate would fix this pretty easily. Until then I'll be raping people in GvG with this.--

Tbh, no one skill on the bar is a big problem, but all in combination is lolimatankpumping60dpsatrange. Misery Says Moo 14:57, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

You're definately right. Any other bar is just the old MB bar for energy management again without the OPness. It's not that popular yet really that it will be hit with the nerf bat. I have a feeling a bunch of these on a team will become popular in GvG. They just straight up rip people apart. If it becomes too popular this will be nerfed soon enough which is a shame. -- 15:19, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Angelus don't be silly, this is like one of the most popular builds in the game atm. Have you played vs MBway in TA its fucking rediculous. FrostytheAdmin 15:57, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

make mb projectile? hmmmm. Exo Oo 16:04, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

good call, forgot about TA -- 16:06, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

When I said it's mainly MB, MB is the key to this build, but you're dead right, it's more the synergy between MB and Distortion, plus the fact the Meteor and Immolate give you quick-recharge damage skills which work in small battles (i.e. RA, TA, and splits), topped off with the extra energy from AoR which lends to spamming cheap skills as well as giving health for extra survivability (with no self healing even your awesome blocking wouldn't be able to keep you alive since 1/4 of attack will still go through and there are spells to worry about too). I hope they don't nerf MB too much though, I quite like it, and it's only really this build it's OP in. 81.110.25.23 18:33, 21 May 2009 (UTC)