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Not sure on the atts, but I like having 14 Illusion for IoP. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 22:38, 6 January 2010

Scourges need be mainbar IMO. You get to lol@ air of enchantment spammers. Zyke-Sig 22:46, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Added distortion to variants, distortion is amazing. --Frosty Frostcharge 22:48, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

^ good call, actually. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 22:50, 6 January 2010
And @Zyke, it depends on what the Kurz's are running. Sometimes there's no point in either Scourge, as you wont see a monk for hours. However, if you see a guild/ally sync monks or just get a bunch of monks in general, then you know you'll need it. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 22:51, 6 January 2010

Lol, I just ran this with the two scourge's and the two snares and it was loltastic. Bonders pm'd me and cussed me out after :D. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 23:15, 6 January 2010

scourges are amazing at gunther and monks camping walls (I'm the only one who does this it seems). needs auspicious+arcane echo for actually taking out npcs. distortion is pretty useless since melee ALWAYS sucks on kurzick side. If there are no monks, you will win anyways just nuking npcs--Relyk talk 23:21, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
Tbh, if you stick with a turtle, you wont need arcane echo (and you can't afford to spec for auspicious). I just had a 2:34 min match just staying with the turtle, scourging bonded targets, and nuking + IoP'ing Gunther. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 23:33, 6 January 2010
its nice if the turtle gets killed though--Relyk talk 02:10, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

New name?

Painful Judgment, IoJ sounds too gay. Zyke-Sig 02:36, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to move it. Just remember to suppress redirect. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 03:11, 7 January 2010

great

its rated above 4.75, move to great and vetted please. also i lol so hard wghen these computer solutions teachers walk by and suspect nothing, even wiki's and such like this are not allowed.--Bluetapeboy 18:15, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Just for the future, you could have done that yourself. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 18:21, 7 January 2010
jut for the future, im so stupid i dont know how to tag a vetted build. also build is win.--Bluetapeboy 23:21, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
says how right here--Relyk talk 23:46, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

IoP

is pretty much fodder for monks at gunther and roj+turtle should kill npcs, you would be better off with auspicious+nightmare and spam roj, although iop is better if there aren't monks. ethereal burden is pretty pointless. also think smite healing is best skill ever at gunther and should be mainbar-Relyk talk 00:51, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

IoP + PP is to kill splitters. And scourge enchant is better against monks at gunther. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 08:49, 9 January 2010

Terrible Idea For A Page

Wait so if I combine FC with Roj *Eureka* I have a faster casting RoJ!!! Did a page seriously have to be made for this? I mean this is why PvX gets flamed so much.

Um....ok? Karate KJ for sig Jesus 22:09, 31 January 2010
very good constructive full of information comment, we are proud we have someone like you to discuss the builds like a gentleman, with an objective point of view and greatly increasing the efficiency of the build [/sarcasm]--37er 19:21, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
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