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Obviously not a bad idea, but I would concentrate on either prot rather than healing. Since you have Seed on the bar, you'd already be a hybrid healer and healing skills don't need to be recharged as much as prot would be. KJ badge sig 17:10, 9 July 2009

Something like this:

Assassin's Promise Reversal of Fortune Shield of Absorption Spirit Bond Protective Spirit Seed of Life Aegis Selfless Spirit

Gogo, cheap protting with great heal support. KJ badge sig 17:15, 9 July 2009

Needs moar divine boon. LifeWikiLOD7 00:21, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
i could only really fit divine boon in if i dropped kiss+patspirit and took boon + rof and that means more energy intensive and less spam of protspirit. And thats much more fragile if you bork AP or get Selfless removed, and end up been a Boon'd Rof spammer as your burning thru energy way faster. Kiss + patspirit is much more stable in that situation. but i will consider that, and appreciate the feedback >>Jayson<<< 00:55, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Something like this with PS over something. Selfless would work too. LifeWikiLOD7 01:03, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

<pvxbig> [build prof=Mo/A div=12+1+1 deadly=9 pro=9+1][Assassin's Promise][Reversal of Fortune][Seed of Life][Shield of Absorption][Deny Hexes][Divine Spirit][Aegis][Divine Boon][/build] </pvxbig>

Thats pretty much the the heavier prot version i run when the other monk is heavier on heals(eg decides to run Hb). tho i still find it a little more fragile if you fail your ap. (selfless for divine and ps for deny hex)>>Jayson<<< 01:22, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
I actually kind of like divine because it means you can actually heal yourself. That bar(or a variation there of), is basically the only pure prot bar you should ever run in pve. Even then, it should stay in general pve. LifeWikiLOD7 02:30, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Needs prot spirit. KJ badge sig 16:31, 10 July 2009

Aegis

counts as casting on yourself, so Selfless has to go. ··· Danny-sig 17:00, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

That's why they're discussing Divine Spirit. KJ badge sig 17:02, 10 July 2009
Aegis is perfectly FINE with selfless. If your stupid enough to cast selfless THEN aegis you deserve to have selfless drop, you obviously cast aegis then selfless(as stated on the usage section :/) Only really discussing Divine spirit for WHEN/IF you need to target you self for other prots or heals.(example 6 man area with only yourself monking)otherwise the double duration and half cost make selfless a better option, imo, after testing both. >>Jayson<<< 23:05, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Imo

Put the full prot version on the page too, and put variants as PS and selfless/divine. --67.240.83.137 15:10, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Cheap prot spirit abuse is a massive upside and deserves mainbar really. But yes, Boon Prot variant added to page, as it runs different attribute spread. >>Jayson<<< 19:25, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Testing

goin to move this to testing later today >>Jayson<<< 13:13, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

patient spirit is bad, more ethereal light--Relyk 13:27, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
that's sarcasm right there's nothing in build to make ethereal cast faster to not get interrupted... 96.13.34.106 18:07, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Terrible

Outside of discord, and even so it's still meh because you are diverting your attention and attribs spec outside of your role - protting and keeping the party alive. Lightningbolt siguɐɟɐʞıd o^_^o¸«` 18:29, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Glyph of renewal to lesson at spread MuffinPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 18:35, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
The att spread is fine on the boon/prot version, and you could even drop the deadly spec if you wanted. GoR won't recharge the 3 skills that need it effectively. I've run the version Racthoh posted in the past, and it is probably the best general pve prot build.--67.240.83.137 19:23, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

wow

AP monk. I've seen: 1. smiting Wammos 2. Warriors running meteor shower 3. rangers running flare -_- 4. Meleemancers ( my favorite until now ) But this one has beat them all. I do get the point of this build bit.... U could manage ur energy at 183573892752385732075092723073 other MORE EFFICIENT ways... It is pretty original... but also pretty pointless... dumbest ive seen so far... just...wow

You are terrible. Please stop posting and uninstall gw. kthnx. LifeWikiLOD7 00:52, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
thank you for making my day. Zzes Tyan 03:17, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Feedback

Hence the posting here and WANTING merciless fucking over of the original idea! i appreciated the WHOLE page of feedback :P even from the people to worried to sigh their comments! And the overall consensus is? The boon prot version is on the whole better? and a much better prot bar than a heal hybrid? Yeah fair enough! ill take that like a man :D..Tho i did say i run the prot heavy version and that others has used boonprot+ap in the past!(especially well know players!) so i wanted to see what everyone thogught of the heal hybrid!!, and i did say but its slightly more fragile if you fuck up!! i wanted so see the general thoughts on this :D will i bitch you all shot the idea down? jesus no :P happy people are taking the time to look and give DECENT comments :D Bars will be updated at some point when i can be bothered :D >>Jayson<<< 00:41, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Lots of! random! exclamation points is! good!!!!!!!!!111 Zzes Tyan 03:19, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
damn right!! looks boring without them!! entirely possible when i wrote it that i was a>drunk or b>bored:D >>Jayson<<< 12:26, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Boon Prot Version

Page respecced to boon prot version!...and happily on my part ill add :D More feed back please!.. and Sidenote: boon prots always relied on energy management for their elite, AP does this + gives recharges to some basic skills for MUCH increased efficiency and insta recharges!

  • additional* should the page be renamed? Pls keep up the feedback :D its ALL appreciated! >>Jayson<<< 00:58, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Looks good. However, i'd still favor a slightly higher spec into deadly. 8, maybe 9 is probably best. LifeWikiLOD7 01:51, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Agreed and fixed >>Jayson<<< 01:59, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Except I hate AP cause of the 3/4 sec cast---u cant cast too early or mob might remove it, and u cant cast too late or mob dies during that 3/4 sec MuffinPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 17:15, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Selfless spirit

The buff pretty much took away some of the need for ap...oh well...Back to Divine Spirit.. still gets a one man aegis chain and rapid fire seeds! win! >>Jayson<<< 23:06, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Wouldnt selfless be better overall? Or maybe an optional? Btw, i reverted those edits because i didn't realize it was you =\ Life Guardian 01:00, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
worry less!! :D your prob right anyway! ill just leave it as it is :D Divine is in the optionals..and gives you better Eman, but if you barf ap thats goes too..meh :P and yah..forgettin to log in is clever :p >>Jayson<<< 01:03, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
@ life guardian RE:edit < Yup prob the best way :D thanks >>Jayson<<< 01:15, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Perma Seed makes for smooth sailing.--Ikimono"My beard is thick."Monk-Paragon-icon 03:37, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

btw

(taking out seed of life) do heros use this properly..?--Ikimono"My beard is thick."Monk-Paragon-icon 03:38, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I seriously doubt it. Life Guardian 05:38, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Heroes can't use Seeds of Life. PVE Skill.--Cancerman66 06:39, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

You're very smart. Drahgal Meir 06:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Alas no, heores suck at protting pro-activly. The are passable with AP tho. Waste of time making a Hero run it really Imo. >>Jayson<<< 12:25, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
True. &lol@cancerman.--Ikimono"My beard is thick."Monk-Paragon-icon 03:40, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Heavy energy Variant

thoughts? >>Jayson<<< 01:28, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Post a build so we know what you mean by "high energy" variant. + ℓγssάή [rage] 01:47, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
see variant section, about running BOTH divine spirit + selfless spirit to power spam of ps+sb+shield guardian.(sure i posted this once, but its not shown up *shrugs) >>Jayson<<< 13:12, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

useless elite

you can spam all that skills without AP--37er 13:31, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

k? Seed of life and aegis? Novii 13:37, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
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